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[–] clamhurt_legbeard [S] 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

Even if Russia IS hacking Hillary, they're choosing to do that instead of nuclear war.

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[–] Mediocrity 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

I'll take it.

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[–] Terrorist 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Maybe you should be asking yourself why Russia would want a man like Trump in power? Putin doesn't just do things out of the kindness of his heart.

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[–] CTRShillAcct 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes, Russia is our friend because they don't start the end of the human race.

Your logic is broken.

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[–] clamhurt_legbeard [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I know, isn't that fucked up? All you have to do right now is not try to start WWIII and I'll make a good guy meme of it.

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[–] Troll 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

You know, for all the shill talk about Russia being behind all this hacking shit, I think it's just Hillary lying again. I honestly don't think Russia had anything to do with this in any capacity. They're a fucking scapegoat.

Not trying to be patriotic and all, but I believe this to be the work of American patriots. Probably people like Seth Rich and others who gave their lives so that we can see for ourselves how much a fucking despicable bunch of cunts Hillary and the Dems actually are.

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[–] softdown 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Fuck...I just upvoted a known troll. The world has flipped.

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[–] 6623205 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

While they are by no means our current enemy, it is an error to trust the Ruskies too much. We have this common interest with them, but Putin's job is to protect Russian interests, which are often in competition with ours. Also, Putin is not the biggest fan of democracy out there; they barely even pretend to be a liberal democracy.

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[–] softdown 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Our leaders have been steadily crapping on the Constitution and democracy for a long time. They are no fans of human rights, democracy, or anything decent for the common man.

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[–] 6623493 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The difference is that with us it's a cancer and with Russia it's a well engrained institution. We have a rich tradition of democracy and individual liberty, Russia has had about 3 years of liberal democracy in its history. I agree that the current authoritarians in America are both our foe, and Russia's foe. I think however, that our common interests end shortly after.

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[–] 0fsgivin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not to mention Putin and Clinton both certainly serve globalist powers. And they both have political enemies killed.

But yah whatever, right now we should be trying for at least a fairly trusting relationship simply to ally and finally crush wahabist Islam. That we let flourish to destabilize the mid east and keep the ruskies out. or at least was the reward we gave saudi arabia for staying loyal to us during the cold war. And thats worked out so well.

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[–] bikergang_accountant 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

But we have no reason to believe that this is the Russians at all. Not even one shred of evidence suggesting it.

Not only that we can trust Julian. He hasn't published false information yet. Not only that we have cryptographic signatures on the emails.

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[–] 6625221 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree, all signs point to Seth Rich who was murdered for it. I am simply talking about the general trend of excessive Russophilia you'll see often on Voat.

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[–] 6624123 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

The main reason for the initial dispute between FDR's United States and Stalin's USSR was that "both countries were set to come out of World War 2 far stronger than any other former superpower", "the two countries' ideologies and systems of government were spreading beyond their borders", and "in the early part of the nuclear age, we didn't want to be left with the weaker arsenal".

Now, most of Russia's communist economic policies have been replaced by capitalist ones, they have some fairly progressive laws (not as much as the ones you might find in places like Southern California, but you have to say 'enough is enough' at some point), and they have been very competent at fighting the biggest threats (kicked the globalist billionaires out of the country, keeps ISIS in check when the US and Saudi governments are trying to covertly support them, and has gotten its citizens to stick together despite constant diplomatic attacks from the idiots in power in the US and the EU).

Even if we don't view them as being as trustworthy as Britain and France have been throughout our history (well, Britain in the more recent times, after they accepted that we were our own nation now, rather than trying to kidnap our sailors so that they would be drafted into the Royal Navy, as they did in the War of 1812), we can still work with them as allies with a mutual goal (eliminate ISIS), accept some of their current requests (such as pulling our forces out of Syria and respecting Assad's rule), and maybe build a closer long-term national relationship from there.

The Cold War does not have to keep being fought 30 years after the Berlin Wall fell, we can move on to a better future as allies.

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[–] auto_turret 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I admire Russia and Putin, they are worthy of uniformed battle with The U.S.

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[–] Sosacms 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Cleaning up our mess in the middle east and killing the terrorists we created.