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[–] scandalous-goat 2 points 46 points (+48|-2) ago 

It's only a symptom of the issue. The culture that built our civilization is being abandoned, replaced by anti-values. When you raise children under those values, you end up with immature assholes that are particularly narcissistic. Combine a lack of purpose and a bizarre idea of virtue and you get SJW.

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[–] 5842934 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I think it's cyclical (more like a downward spiral, really) in that all of these symptoms are a part of a negative feedback loop, each perpetuating and worsening the issue of modern western civilization.

Take Social Justice. Because of an obsession with emotions and forced/natural equality (rather than earned), we have things like freedom of speech dying (hate speech a crime), ridiculous entitlement issues (welfare, food stamps), and the oppression of innocent/hard-working/non-hateful people for the sake of raising less hard-working, more hateful/entitled people. For fear of raising children "incorrectly" we have parents who convince their children that they are "gender fluid"--that gender is "their choice". There is a lack of proper discipline because parents are afraid of being called hateful or abusive. How many parents do you think spank their kids nowadays? Is it any wonder there is such disrespect, entitlement, and crime? Kids grow up thinking the world is theirs and they can get away with anything, so they grow up and become criminals. This results in entire generations growing up with corrupted world-views (the world owes them a living), and these people go on to perpetuate/reinforce/make Social Justice even more ridiculous. Cycle worsens.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Parents are overly protective of their kids because they don't want to be parents, they want to be friends. A whole generation of 'stranger danger' combined with the hyper mobility as a necessity for jobs has left a generation completely devoid of friends. The only ones they have are the ones they spawn themselves and they cling to those relationships too tightly to risk jeopardizing them with discipline. Thus kids grow up to be spoiled brats.

Look for the prime cause. Helicopter parents aren't some fad that happened entirely out of the blue.

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[–] vacvape 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

If you spank children these days it can alter their med cycle as pills fall out.

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[–] R3con 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

On a family vacation. My sister and her kids and me and mine. She asked me how I got my children to listen to me so well. I said I spank them.

She said she tried but felt guilty about it. Guess who's kid was a fucking heathen all weekend and made everyone miserable?

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[–] AverageAmerica 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I thought violent crime was on a downward trend for the past couple decades.

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[–] scandalous-goat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

To be fair, I was intentionally vague as I wanted to give OP a trail to follow if he truly want an answer to his question. In this context, "anti-values" does the job perfectly.

On the other hand, I have to admit that I'm not confident enough to affirm what those "anti-values" are. Think of it like Plato's cave allegory: how can you know which values are regressive if they're all you know?

For an example, we lost honor, integrity and self-reliance to comfort, conformity, obedience and hedonism. What kind of "role model" do you get out of this?

If you look at the seven deadly sins, you see that State encourage every last one.

Yeah, such State clearly wants a population that depend on it. What I'm curious about is how that State got established in the first place. A proud People wouldn't tolerate being treated like children in the first place. Once it is established, it'll bring society into a free fall.

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[–] oedipusaurus_rex 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ironically, I think that the current crop of SJWs are going to be the primary cause of ultra-nationalistic fascist taking control. People en mass have a tendency to over-correct.

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[–] scandalous-goat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Don't fall into that trap. The far left sees even vanilla nationalism as a great danger to their survival so they'll go out of their way to make their opponents appear scarier than they should be. Just look at what they did with gamergate! Do you really think there's that many neo-nazis?

But you are right, they'll be their own downfall.

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[–] gramman74 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Spoiled children that became spoiled adults

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[–] PraiseIPU 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

and are blaming society for their fucked up kids

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[–] AverageAmerica 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So who made the parents who made the spoiled kids who turned into the spoiled adults?

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[–] great_regret 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It used to be you beat some sense into the little shit when he gets uppity (my parents certainly did), but now, thanks to leftists, that's considered "harmful". A child is stupid, a child doesn't give a fuck about cause and consequence, but you trust me, he'll care for a sore bottom and remember it next time he thinks up something stupid.

There is a difference between proper parenting and abuse.

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[–] finalx00 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Except the 50 year research shows otherwise: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-04-26/spanking-kids-causes-mental-health-issues-study-shows

Your anecdotal experiences and beliefs don't trump the facts. You may have turned out "fine" and congrats for that, but the evidence is there.

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[–] great_regret 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Psychology is pseudo-babble, not science. And we've already seen what leftists ideas of parenting end up producing.

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[–] MorpheusGodofDreams 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Lincoln did not discipline his children that way.

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[–] MONKEYBUSINESS 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And look at what he is famous for... Getting shot in the back of the head.

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[–] Ivegotredditcancer 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

We have a generation of "adults" who were raised by "I don't need no man's" single women. They spent their lives getting "Participation" awards and being told they can do anything they want. They had "feelings" put as most important rather than effort and all of a sudden they realize they can't do shit with a "Participation" award. So now we have a whole generation of kids that realize mommy and her special friend lied to them.

Rather than focus on their lives and make shit better for themselves they want to "Participate" by telling the rest of the world how they fucked up. Why? Because we all know its easier to tell your neighbor how fucked up their lawn is than to do something about your shitty roof. Effort is not celebrated in this country as much as being loud and ignorant is.

Hell try debating with one of these loose screw half-wits and see if you don't want to take them behind the wood shed. When I grew up the rules were simple. Keep your mouth shut do your work brush your teeth and go to bed. If you were good than you watched some tv at night. If you did your chores you got your due and if you fucked off there was no Social Services to come take you away. You got your ass handed to you on a good day and on a bad day you missed school. Is that how I'll raise my kids? No. However there will be no rewards for taking a shit if you don't have the decency to wipe your own ass flush the toilet and light a match on the way out.

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[–] KanakaHaole [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I really enjoyed reading your well thought out idea and you've given me some more food for thought. Thanks.

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[–] im_the_dude_man 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I think it has to do with the internet and ease of getting in touch with like minded people and grouping with them in echo chambers. Before this people mainly had to deal with shame on their own and going against the societal norm was more difficult. Now someone can get in touch with many others who would rather break down standards than better themselves.

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[–] im_the_dude_man 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well, take what recently happened to that gym advertisement in the London metro as an example. There was a poster of an in shape, attractive person in a swim suit and out of shape people claimed that it "shamed" them. Instead of exercising or eating healthy and improving themselves to make themselves feel better they complained and got the advertisement taken down.

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[–] Antiseed117 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It's value over values in this world. Laws are for slaves only.

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[–] Tb0n3 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Maybe because you're not in people's houses.

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[–] KanakaHaole [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I haven't stopped breaking in to them if that's what you mean.

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[–] im_the_dude_man 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It's difficult breaking old habits.

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