People are being killed all over the world in the name of one religion. Are we going to keep pretending this religion's beliefs isn't at odds with our own written law?
If I owned a newspaper it's headline Saturday morning would have read 'Freedom of Religion' with a large picture of all the dead French in the road.
They are not allowing us freedom from their religion, and thus, do not belong in our countries that share this ideal.
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[–] iamjanesleftnipple 2 points 3 points 5 points (+5|-2) ago
You apparently haven't heard of the Supremacy Clause, which does exactly what you claim can't happen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause
IE, the State cannot make a religion, that state means Federal, State, Counties, Local, etc. It goes from the top all the way down.
[–] fuck_communism 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago (edited ago)
The Establishment Clause prevents the United States Congress from passing laws with respect to the establishment of religion. As a result, there are no Federal laws with respect to the establishment of religion (I am ignoring subsequent Supreme Court interpretations because we are discussing the constitution, not those interpretations). Therefore, the Supremacy Clause does not come into play. Example: There is no Federal law prohibiting states from conducting lotteries, so states are free to decide whether or not to enact the idiot tax - the Supremacy Clause is immaterial. If Congress passed, and the President signed into law, a bill prohibiting lotteries in the United States, then the Supremacy Clause would come into play, and state lotteries would be illegal.
If, instead of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ..." the Establishment Clause read "The United States shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ..." you would be correct.
[–] iamjanesleftnipple 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
Except once again, you're wrong, thanks to the Supreme Court: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/330/1.html
Here's the summary: The Supreme Court made clear in a landmark ruling in 1947 that the Establishment Clause does apply to states – and they have underscored this holding repeatedly since then.
This is the First Amendment via the Supremacy Clause.
So to sum up, because it's all been said:
Matter put to rest, nice discussion, good night.