People are being killed all over the world in the name of one religion. Are we going to keep pretending this religion's beliefs isn't at odds with our own written law?
If I owned a newspaper it's headline Saturday morning would have read 'Freedom of Religion' with a large picture of all the dead French in the road.
They are not allowing us freedom from their religion, and thus, do not belong in our countries that share this ideal.
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[–] fuck_communism 12 points 13 points 25 points (+25|-12) ago
No, it was not. It was simply meant to prohibit the establishment of a state religion the way the Anglican Church is the state religion of Great Britain, where the the Queen is both the head of state, and the head of the church. Fuck you people are stupid.
[–] iamjanesleftnipple 0 points 17 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago
That's exactly what "Freedom from Religion" means: Not having religion forced upon you by the government.
[–] fuck_communism 7 points 2 points 9 points (+9|-7) ago
The phrase "freedom from religion" does not appear anywhere in the Bill of Rights, therefore it has no legal or universal meaning, and means only what the person using it says. It is as definitive as "more" or "less."
[–] Kal [S] 5 points 3 points 8 points (+8|-5) ago
Could you source which books you've read on the subject which brought you to this conclusion or is "Fuck you people are stupid" supposed to win this argument for you?
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[–] fuck_communism 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
Start here. "Fuck you people are stupid" is not an argument, it is an observation.
[–] 9-11 9 points -6 points 3 points (+3|-9) ago
v/atheism would enjoy this discussion... then you can chit-chat about how much you hate christian america and the west in general.
[–] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
All the First Amendment did on establishment was recognize the obvious - that the US was too diverse in religion to have a national church. That's it. The individual states usually had state established churches. Mostly Anglicanism in the South and Congregationalism in New England.
[–] fuck_communism 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
The U.S. in 1789 was not "religiously diverse," as the phrase is used today. Believers were 95% Protestant - Anglicans/Episcopalians, and congregationalists (pretty much Anglicans who did not recognize the authority of the British church, and who believed it was still "too Catholic").
The framers of the constitution and the Bill of Rights were concerned that a state religion would vest power over Americans in the hand of a foreign government - Great Britain, and/or create a defacto fourth branch of government.
As written, the Constitution does not prohibit the establishment of state religions by individual states.