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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

These are exactly the points which make this situation complex. Where is the line and what precedent would be set? What policy will be best for Voat in the future?

These are tough questions which we will not make in haste.

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[–] Disappointed 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Yea, I don't envy you it. Whatever you do decide some will be unhappy but no one can deny that you both involve the community as much as is practical.

Anyway, if you are ever open to System taking over more subs and if the community agreed, I'd be happy to have that happen on v/linux.

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[–] 5678201 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Just wanted to squeeze in here and say that power is just about the number one threat to freedom, and that by removing some or all (depending) of moderator power, encroaching issues like these would have an awful hard time emerging again.

@markrod420 has been the voice of this argument so far in this thread. Personally the idea that a select few power-hungry corrupt moderators can ruin entire communities irks me to no end. If the moderators could have less power and authority and more of the community management responsibility were to fall on, well, the community, I think we'd all be in a better boat.

Just something else for you and @Atko to chew on.

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[–] kevdude [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

We have long been pushing for guidelines for moderation. These guidelines would have to take into account the type of sub "default" vs "small" vs "circlejerk" vs "NSFW" and the level of moderation envisioned by its creator at time of creation "strict", "moderate", "minimal". If a mod stays within the lines for their level of moderation and their sub type all is good. If they step out there should be a clear system in place to get them removed.

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[–] markrod420 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you. Power represses freedom. Its frustrating that people dont understand theres no way to actually properly moderate these powers.

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[–] kevdude [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

These are tough questions which we will not make in haste.

The reversal of the subverse request would be easy. Could the subverse list be reconfigured to be listed alphabetically? Help out the little guys?

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[–] 51rH0n3y84d93r 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thanks for taking the time to reflect on this. I think you have to strike a balance between the mission of the sub and the moderation level. IE: If you had a BBW sub, and FPH users constantly post "REEEE REEEE REEEE", not being able to remove those users would likely be detrimental to the subs continued existence. The alternative is those mods who get off to banning those who they simply disagree with versus people who simply exist to disrupt discussion. Being able to block or mute other users may address the first issue as it would be up to the other user, but again, there are more variables at play.