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[–] markrod420 6 points 36 points (+42|-6) ago 

Or just stop with the moderating nonsense and just let people say shit. Instead of 10 complex layers of moderation that can be manipulated and used wrongly maybe fucking none.

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[–] kevdude [S] 3 points 24 points (+27|-3) ago 

I would agree to a point. Adspam clutters up the feed and is annoying as fuck. I mod v/sports and I constantly have to delete sketchy virus-filled livestream links. Otherwise the front page would be half spam and would suck. If you check our sidebar it seems that there are a bunch of rules, but really they are all just trying to clearly define what "spam" is so that mods can't just make shit up.

If you start your own sub you should have some say in things. Also, small niche subs do need some moderation. I mod v/tolkien and I am trying to grow it. There aren't enough users yet to mod with votes (live we do in v/politicalnews).

And sometimes the community agrees on things and needs the mod team to enforce their will.

BUT if a sub is going to be moderated it should be clearly spelled out in the sidebar. Check this link and tell me your thoughts: https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/comments/746415

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[–] markrod420 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Adspam is about the only moderation i really approve of. Otherwise if theres a bunch of moderation involved i just wont view or participate in that sub.

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[–] bob3333 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Adspam clutters up the feed and is annoying as fuck.

Can't we devise a system that lets the userbase moderate? Something like receiving x downvotes from users with at least n CCP gets a post auto-hidden.

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[–] TheKobold 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

OH! v/tolkien. Subbed.

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[–] localbum 4 points 16 points (+20|-4) ago 

Just remove moderator abilities. Don't give more power, take some away.

But no mods? Yeah, I'm down with that also.

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[–] Savipalooza 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I agree. In my opinion, there are only five things I can think of that anyone should ever be banned for: 1) Posting illegal content 2) Doxing 3) Spam 4) Posting malicious links 5) Posting untagged spoilers

I also believe that mods can't be trusted to do this. That's why I think they should not have the power to ban. If they believe someone has done one of those five things, they should have the option to send a ban request to the admins. The admins will review the comments that were linked, along with any notes, and ban the user if the user violated any of those rules. However, the admins could have some sort of punishment/deterrent to prevent mods from sending ban requests for unbannable comments and submissions. Maybe if a mod's requests are too often denied, they could lose mod privileges.

Without the ability to ban users, a mod's job would be limited mostly to removing off-topic posts and top level comments.

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[–] G4 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Depends on the point of the sub tbh.

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[–] Throwingtothewolves 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

There are 10 complex layers? Wow.

If not for spam I would agree with you. Try thinking of a verse as a storefront or someone's house. That might help.

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[–] markrod420 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think ill think of it as an open forum and maintain my current opinion