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[–] PuttItOut 1 points 128 points (+129|-1) ago 

We are currently working on how to handle this via a user terms modification. We fully realize we have a conflict of interest between our core core values at Voat and various moderator actions.

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[–] kevdude [S] 5 points 41 points (+46|-5) ago 

You guys rock. I saw someone link to this in another thread and had flashbacks. In any event you would all be within your rights to demod his ass from v/gunsarecool.

Also, would a sub rating system work? Like if you start a sub you have to identify?

FPH would be strictly moderated (mod discretion)

v/canada would get a moderate rating (anything goes to a point, they enforce politeness)

Defaults would be minimal moderation (spam/clear off topic/etc)

Mods would have to spell this out and then spell out the rules.

That way there is a disclaimer right in the sidebar for each sub.

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[–] markrod420 6 points 36 points (+42|-6) ago 

Or just stop with the moderating nonsense and just let people say shit. Instead of 10 complex layers of moderation that can be manipulated and used wrongly maybe fucking none.

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[–] HenryCorpIncLLC 4 points 6 points (+10|-4) ago  (edited ago)

In any event you would all be within your rights to demod his ass from v/gunsarecool.

I also find it absurd that a radical, occupier, anti-gun, anti-free speech progressive activist is the moderator of /v/constitution. Ironically, @HenryCorp mods /v/conflictofinterest despite being the biggest example of a conflict of interest here at Voat.

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[–] mamwad 5 points -3 points (+2|-5) ago 

We are currently working on how to handle this via a user terms modification.

IOW I was right.

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[–] Disappointed 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Someone downthread mentioned sub real estate, meaning people angle for popular named subs and then take them over to push their own agenda. For instance I was recently given modship of v/Linux(9k subscribers)and I'm the sole mod there. What is stopping me from doing exactly what this Henrycorp guy is doing here or turning it into a Linux hate sub? Would you step in? If so where is the line drawn between smaller subs and larger subs or would it be admin discretion? That too is open to abuse later. We all saw what happened at Reddit with the admins doing an about face on freedom of speech and lately controlling things even further through coding.

You can't deny that with a name like Environment or Linux that creating a competing sub against it is going to be a very difficult task given how people naturally search and find things on the web. So maybe if there was some way to label a strictly moderated sub or incorporate something in the name to differentiate between moderated and unmoderated subs, that would take that 'name brand' power away from people like Henrycorp who use subs solely to push a narrative and ignore the userbases wishes completely.

Something to chew on anyway.

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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

These are exactly the points which make this situation complex. Where is the line and what precedent would be set? What policy will be best for Voat in the future?

These are tough questions which we will not make in haste.

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[–] sgx191316 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You can't deny that with a name like Environment or Linux that creating a competing sub against it is going to be a very difficult task given how people naturally search and find things on the web.

Right, that's the problem. You can't easily let users vote out a mod because then groups like SRS would use it to take over legitimate subs they disagree with, but what if there were a less potentially destructive action users could take? How about a slot or two for "Suggested alternative subs" at the top of every sub, which are entirely democratic and outside the control of the mods? So if you ever start turning /v/linux into a linux hate sub, your users could vote in /v/betterLinux or whatever as the alternative. Users who agree with you can stay, and those who don't will see the "official" alternative at the top, along with maybe a short description for why it exists, and be able to move over en masse, greatly undercutting the power of big subs to continue on because smaller subs can't organize and can't advertise their existence on the old sub without getting their comments deleted. It wouldn't matter if SRS or trolls voted in stupid alternatives because no one would switch. You could operate an unpopular sub and not have it usurped, but if you genuinely went against your userbase, they'd have a way to organize an alternative.

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[–] ConceptualMan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Kinda like how v/abortion or v/prochoice is all anti abortion?

That is the one thing I still have to go to that evil place for sub/community-wise [insert sad face here]. I can't even start my own sub as there is no subname that is actually pro-choice based.

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[–] VicariousJambi 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You guys are seriously the best admins/mods I've ever seen. Thanks for being awesome!

p.s. please bring back the shirts I missed it the first time

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[–] AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thanks PutItOut,

I would be happy to help craft some language to restrict moderator censorship if you are in need of assistance.

Thanks as always to you and @Atko for continuing to preserve the dream of an aggregate sans editorial control.

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Involve this egotistical mentally ill asshat power mod from reddit with nothing, he's pure cancer and is totally full of shit.

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[–] kevdude [S] 4 points 49 points (+53|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Look everybody, a comment graveyard. Haven't seen one of them in a long time.

Edit: The removed comments can all be found here

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[–] fagnig 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

theyre being deleted within minutes, this is my friends an outrage

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[–] christy 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

A reddit mod came over and took over a few subs and tried for more before he was subblocked by voaters who noticed what was going down. Anything in his subvoats he goes modtastic on and censors.

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[–] sinjinsmythe 3 points 11 points (+14|-3) ago  (edited ago)

What a nigger faggot douche-canoe.

@HenryCorp

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[–] ydoom 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Is this a corporate account?

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[–] Skyrock 2 points 24 points (+26|-2) ago 

v/ProtectVoat

There are already several threads about the shenanigans of @HenryCorp

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

What is v/environment all about?

He's just grabbing up sub name real estate?

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[–] kevdude [S] 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

Basically. Which is why @TheDude2 started v/environmentalism.

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[–] Chiefpacman 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Subbed.

Any ideas on how to deal with cancers like this?

Can't exactly ban people from starting subverses, even if this fuck probably should be

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[–] cynoclast 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

@atko We don't need duplicates of reddit subs run by the same petty tyrants on voat,

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[–] HenryCorpIncLLC 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

They are total duplicates too. He spams the same link to multiple subs on Reddit, Voat, his Twitter account, etc. It's obvious the guy is paid to do it.

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[–] AlwaysInService 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

It seems HenryCorp is really serious about censorship...

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

@CANCEL-CAT-FACTS was particularly eloquent.

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