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[–] SilverBanana 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Same argument can be used about Jazz, Blues and Rock n' Roll. Best music and other great art comes from the place of passion. The life I want to live and live I want to listen to are very different.

I enjoy Breaking Bad, yet I do not plan on cooking meth.

I do not like rap, and I find culture around it to be a little stupid. But I disagree with this post. There is no conspiracy to "bring Islam into your living room." That is just fearmongering.

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[–] icamefromreddityo [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Same argument can be used about Jazz, Blues and Rock n' Roll.

Which Jazz, Blues and Rock n'Roll are you listening to? I didn't know they were known for constantly peddling sex, drugs, violence and gangsterism. Either way, my point isn't that the music is inherently bad - my point is that the music is currently saturated with the same negative messages which reaffirm violent behavior.

The life I want to live and live I want to listen to are very different.

That's good, but to some people the life they live and the life they want to listen to overlap quite regularly. Especially when they are too young or dumb to know any better.

I enjoy Breaking Bad, yet I do not plan on cooking meth.

Actually interesting you should say that, because Breaking Bad apparently spawned a lot of copycats. Besides, that's not the same thing here. You don't watch Breaking Bad constantly, you don't have Breaking Bad legitimised before you in the prevailing culture, you don't eat sleep and dress to conform to Breaking Bad, Breaking Bad doesn't have actors (as far as I know) that are linked to supremacy movements, etc.

I do not like rap, and I find culture around it to be a little stupid. But I disagree with this post.

To bad. Your disagreeing with it doesn't make me wrong. I doubt you even understood much of this post, or the references I made. Did you even follow the trail of the Black Panthers through to Tupac Shakur, his violent beef with Biggie Smalls (the first time hip-hop truly divided a nation) - the violent results of that exchange and the ongoing violence that occurred within hip-hop as a result? Did you even know that artists like Snoop Dogg had to go out and campaign for peope to stop shooting each other over East vs West? Etc. You don't know. Did you know that Jay-Z likes Islamic Supremacist ideology and hangs out with Farrakhan? Did you know that Beyoncé paid homage to the Black Panthers at the Superbowl?

You don't like rap? Well I do - and I directly experienced the influence some of those messages can have on the youth, the uneducated and the culturally retarded. I grew up around people that imitated rappers and and isolated anyone that didn't confirm to their experience. The gangster rap music was just a soundtrack to a life of crime. There are even rap songs that teach you how to commit crime.

There is no conspiracy to "bring Islam into your living room."

There is plenty of evidence that rap and hip-hop are becoming increasingly affected by Islamic influences. There are plenty of rappers and hip-hop artists who've converted to Islam or alluded to it in their songs. There is plenty of reason to believe that it is being increasingly legitimised on this side of the fence amongst black people - and there is evidence of widespread influence of Islam in prison. It's forming up as a gang inside prisons and it's attaching itself to the hip-hop culture.

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[–] AlphaWookie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There is no conspiracy to "bring Islam into your living room." That is just fearmongering.

Wrong.

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[–] heygeorge 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

First: Thank you for your post.* It's posts like these which help make Voat great. Now on to some counterpoints.

I can't imagine that 'everybody' knows the gist of 2Pac.

I don't see Busta as a socially conscious rapper. Although I can admit that kids will be kids and there are without a doubt those who are influenced through him to learn more about Islam and go on to embrace it.

On this flip side of this coin, to me, would be Kendrick Lamar, who uses his potent combination of massive ego, drive, and Faith to create conscious lyrics generally decrying violence due to anger and encouraging everyone (especially people of black) to have a spine and stand up against the horrifying culture they've been steeped in.

*Perhaps poast should be a thing... You know, Voat Post... A Post on Voat... A Poast. Ok, yeah, that's stupid.

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[–] Voopin__Voopin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I like poast.

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[–] Zinnsee 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

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[–] Palaver 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

That totally happened. I was there too, they served nachos, and all the big execs were there (not going to provide names of course LOL! ;-)

Poorly crafted fiction.

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[–] SilverBanana 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The head speaker's first name? Albert.

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[–] Zinnsee 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Poorly crafted comment...

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[–] Pawn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

this seems like and old timmey "violent video games are making our kids violent." Instead of video games it's music.

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[–] icamefromreddityo [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you seriously think that an avid gamer and rap fan is going to make that simplistic of an argument?

Don't tell me what it seems like, read what I've posted properly if you are even capable of doing that.

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[–] Pawn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

seems like, more like IS. Go back to your tomb grandpa and leave the video gaming on the telly to the people on your lawn.

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[–] AlphaWookie 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Wrong OP. Nigs are gonna nog no matter what.

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[–] icamefromreddityo [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If being a 'nig' is an inherent trait, being almost culturally obligated to constantly listen to music that glorifies violence isn't going to help it. I don't share your beliefs but I don't see how mine are wrong even if yours are right.