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[–] 8_billion_eaters 0 points 71 points (+71|-0) ago 

This is the real problem in America. Not only can't 2 out of 3 support their own offspring, but their offspring become predators within a short time. They prey on the very people that were taxed to raise them.

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[–] mig2k 0 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago 

"its dey kulchure"

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[–] djsumdog 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Except that it's only true for America (as far as high income countries go). You don't see the same issues in Australia or western Europe for African immigrants or native born. Not by a long shot.

Even in the US, during the civil rights movement there was such a massive swelling of pride and hope. Black culture in the US was pushing to be historically better than the culture of oppression they had lived under for so long.

Since then, something has happened. It's two fold: there is a great segment of industry that has sought to keep low income as low income (not limited to blacks, but as they already made a huge segment of low-income earners, it just grew) and a new black culture evolved. Some by black people, and some not.

If you look at crime rates globally in other high-income western nations (yes, I'm leaving out low income nations -- that's another topic all together and a complex one at that) you don't see the discrepancy pointing out in this FB post.

It's not black people. It's black people in America. It's a combination of a decades of culture. The explanation in this post only states the current situation. It doesn't go into causation. It doesn't address "why" and it's very Amero-centric.

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[–] primaryappellation 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And the ones in Africa

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[–] 5640607? ago 

Unfortunately, american media has started exporting american "black" culture to the rest of the world as well:-(

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[–] Thegreatstoneddragon 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The bigger problem is that only 1 out of 10 facebook users can do math.

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[–] 1WinfieldBlue 0 points 57 points (+57|-0) ago 

"that's the most racist comment I've ever read in my entire life" Aaaahahahaha

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[–] N0really 0 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago 

Facts they can't refute are racist.

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[–] MorpheusGodofDreams 7 points 3 points (+10|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Okay here's the deal. The original comment is in fact racist/false BECAUSE (stay with me here) it implies that only black families can't support their children, but as the guy goes on to show in all his statistics there are other people and other races that are on welfare and can't support their kids either so it's not only black people, which the original comment implies. What's sad is that people can't see this. Had the comment said it is PREDOMINATELY black people who cannot support their children and are on welfare that statement would have been in fact a fact, and the guy who commented with all the statistics would go on to show how it was true. Just semantic, but that word predominantly changes it from being a racist comment to a factual comment, and the statistics prove it. It is a shame that the guy who used all the statistics couldn't make that differentiation, and is more a shamed that a lot of people that are commenting on here can't seem to either. All you have to do is add in one word and it goes from racist to factual, but people don't seem to see that. I know it is just semantics but it is important to be able to make the distinction.

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[–] wolflink009 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

I think you're right and wrong, the thing is whenever someone says "black people" or "woman" or "men" or w/e they just mean a large percentage. IMO saying black people can't support families means more than a normal amount of black people can't support families. If he said ALL black people can't support families that would be racist. People talk in simplified terms and 99% of the time when someone talks about a group they are referring to a noticeable trend. Using bullshit semantics and derailing a conversation is detrimental because it makes the guy saying observations demonized and does nothing to further the conversation in a productive way. If you want someone to clarify they didn't mean all of a group that's fine or if you want the statistics that's also fine, we need to realize that simplified speech is just that though, simplified speech. Almost no one goes around quoting studies or exact percentages every time they say something about them.

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[–] eagleshigh 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

it implies that only black families can't support their children, but as the guy goes on to show in all his statistics there are other people and other races that are on welfare and can't support their kids either so it's not only black people, which the original comment implies.

Blacks have the highest amount per capita.

It is a shame that the guy who used all the statistics couldn't make that differentiation, and is more a shamed that a lot of people that are commenting on here can't seem to either. All you have to do is add in one word and it goes from racist to factual, but people don't seem to see that. I know it is just semantics but it is important to be able to make the distinction.

Blacks are more likely to be on welfare and take less/worse care of their kids is genetic in nature. r-selected populations have faster life history strategies, mainly earlier menarche which leads to more children which is yet another evolutionary trait, and then the higher the population density the higher the chance there is for violence to occur. Add to the fact that it's a low IQ, high testosterone population along with other negative factors then you see what we have with majority black areas in the country.

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[–] fascistreddit ago 

So mostly not racist, but just a bit?

I think that's a good amount of racism.

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[–] yitdo ago 

How do you feel about the Black Lives Matter movement? Because if "its the black families that have too many kids and can't pay for them" made you infer that he thinks only black people can't pay for their kids, then you should be railing against the entire Black Lives Matter movement for implying that only black lives matter. Or any body who says the phrase "Muslim Extremists" for implying that all extremist Muslims are terrorists. Or anybody that says French people are stuck up. Or that English people have bad teeth.

The problem here might be yours for taking a simple statement (one that can be backed up by facts) and trying to look at it from the worst angle (way too many people now a days get in trouble for tweets or sound bites taken out of context). You are certainly right that it could have been phrased in a way that is more clear, but how many more people would lose interest and how many fewer would understand the idea if it was stated as: "Statistics show that a super majority of American families with African ancestors do not provide for their children with out assistance from Medicaid or the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program."

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[–] pm_me_or 0 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago 

Here in France racial statistics are forbidden.

The nationalist party (FN) scores 70-80% with prison guards and policemen.

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[–] jinglejangle101 7 points 18 points (+25|-7) ago 

They can't know the truth about niggers! We need to ban facts!

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[–] Savipalooza 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Knowledge is power. Anyone who bans statistics of any kind is horribly misguided at best and malicious at worst. But I can see why they might do that. The average person doesn't know how to interpret most data, and will probably just assume the data is an indication of inherent racial inferiority without looking at other factors that might explain it. That's what they're trying to cut down on, but they're doing it the wrong way.

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[–] Terrorist 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Here in France racial statistics are forbidden.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/can-the-french-talk-about-race

“The U.S., Great Britain, and Canada all keep racial statistics, but almost no country in Western Europe does. And you can understand that, with our history of Nazism, Vichy France, the idea of starting to keep racial statistics again awakes very bad memories here, Amadieu argued.”

oy vey

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[–] 5634611? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

But that would probably be a better angle for the BLM movement here. "Stop keeping separate statistics; that is racist"

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[–] 5634000? 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

Deleted by the FB Wrongthink Detection Squad in 9... 8.. 7...

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[–] monkeytennis 1 point 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

DELET THIS

Also we live in a time when people will genuinely answer that yes, facts can be racist.

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[–] Ruston 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Also we live in a time when people will genuinely answer that yes, facts can be racist.

I have actually heard from a sjw type in my family that some facts are indeed racist.

You can't even talk to that level of stupid.

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[–] corsairio 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Realism leads to racism. I don't think anyone disputes that these days. It's a good thing.

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[–] Macdaddy5000 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

To say "2 + 2 = 4" is narrowminded!

"I do hate sums. There is no greater mistake than to call arithmetic an exact science. There are permutations and aberrations discernible to minds entirely noble like mine; subtle variations which ordinary accountants fail to discover; hidden laws of number which it requires a mind like mine to perceive. For instance, if you add a sum from the bottom up, and then again from the top down, the result is always different." -- Mrs. La Touche, an early SJW (19th cent.)

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[–] GainsGoblinGoebbels 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Gotta love SJW willful misinterpretation. There is nothing racist about those stats. There is a difference between acknowledging that a problem exists and making assertions about the root cause of said problem, but ofc SJWs are incapable of critical thinking to that degree of granularity.

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[–] djsumdog 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Yes, it's basic labeling theory. See my other comment about black cultures in other countries.

These stats are pretty limited to America. It's not blacks in general. It's blacks in America, and there's a very complicated set of cultural situations that led to this situation.

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