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[–] antiracist14 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Holy shit, I crushed @Crensch so hard here. You're a mathematician. Maybe you can act as an objective third party to decide who won the "debate."

https://voat.co/v/Showerthoughts/comments/1137563/5657691

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[–] Crensch 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Toby, if you want to lose more, all you have to do is tell me.

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[–] TelescopiumHerscheli ago  (edited ago)

I think if we're searching for truth we do better if we find areas where we agree. I have briefly skimmed your argument, and largely feel that neither of you is coming out of the discussion particularly well. My own view is that Gödel's excusion into a variation of the Ontological Proof is best understood through the lens of psychology, and should not be regarded as a serious piece of reasoning.

I feel that you and @Crensch would both benefit from setting your goals not as "winning", but as "understanding". There is nothing wrong with getting things wrong from time to time, or saying you don't understand something. The shame is when you don't learn. Instead of trying to crush each other, try to explain your positions to each other. If you teach each other, you will both get greater.

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[–] antiracist 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

I think if we're searching for truth we do better if we find areas where we agree.

The dude doesn't trust expert testimony nor the role of argument.

I have briefly skimmed your argument, and largely feel that neither of you is coming out of the discussion particularly well.

People dislike my profanity. I have been arguing with Crensch for some time.

My own view is that Gödel's excusion into a variation of the Ontological Proof is best understood through the lens of psychology, and should not be regarded as a serious piece of reasoning.

Why?

I feel that you and @Crensch would both benefit from setting your goals not as "winning", but as "understanding". There is nothing wrong with getting things wrong from time to time, or saying you don't understand something. The shame is when you don't learn. Instead of trying to crush each other, try to explain your positions to each other.

Shit, I've been saying this my whole time here, but these Nazi fucks only understand "lol refuted you bro."

  1. https://www.google.com/search?q=site:voat.co+%22eagleshigh%22+%22refuted

  2. https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/856350/4269432

  3. https://voat.co/v/whatever/comments/1141758/5670086

  4. https://voat.co/v/whatever/comments/1139902/5653589

The dude @Crensch calls things absurd and garbage before even reading them, when he doesn't understand them, and he does not elaborate on his claim. That's no way to have a conversation or defend a position or work toward truth.

If you teach each other, you will both get greater.

Crensch doesn't have an education, a rigorous mind, or the communication ability.