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[–] PuttItOut 1 points 234 points (+235|-1) ago 

I've had enough of this!

This is the second time this particular sub has been hijacked with malicious intention.

Voat will not stand for this behavior, even if it is against a sub that is a thorn around Voat's head and literally hurts our public image. We debated letting this sub die out to help Voat's image, but it is against our principles to allow for this to happen. Hence we've acted.

I've purged all mods on this sub.

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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 52 points (+52|-0) ago 

I don't lean any way, that way I never risk falling on my face.

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[–] flyawayhigh 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Free speech has always been a liberal value. (Note: I did not say "leftist.")

It has only been in the internet age, and only the past few years that conservatives have picked up the mantle (and only in certain areas btw).

These censors (I'm looking at you Reddit) are either conservative (as in the mass domain purge at r-politics) or paranoid partisans (aka Democrats). They are definitely not liberals.

You don't just take away the free speech element of liberal and hand it to conservative based on some short-term fluke of history. This reversal so totally confuses the concepts as to remove all meaning from the words -- and that means we can no longer communicate.

I read through this thread yesterday. I have never been and would never go to the subverse in question, and would not even use the word except in unusual circumstances; but what happened to the subverse was absolutely wrong, and I am glad that @PuttItOut intervened. This is like the ACLU representing the KKK -- the concept is more important than what we think of the community.

I am still suggesting that the admins create a standard process for dealing with moderator abuses. :)

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[–] Cynabuns 1 points 30 points (+31|-1) ago 

Thank you!

Please also see PM concerning discovered exploit.

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[–] sixart 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

A devotion to freedom of expression is essential to creating a forum for all ideas to be discussed. Thank you!

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[–] thrus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Futurama: A Taste of Freedom - December 22, 2002

Old Man Waterfall: I don't condone what Dr. Zoidberg did but I'll fight tooth and nail for his freedom to do it

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[–] Weebo 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I hate v/niggers and have blocked them. However, I completely stand behind their right to exist. Thank you for putting principles above politics.

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[–] YRU2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I second that!

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[–] SergeantSlother 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago 

I think /v/niggers got overthrown. :(

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[–] TheDude2 1 points 103 points (+104|-1) ago 

I never thought I'd say this, but we have to protect those we hate. Even the /v/niggers people.

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[–] sniper98g 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

Protecting speech is always the correct way.

The easiest way to get people stop listening to an idiot is to let them speak.

Whether you agree with someone or not, censorship is not the answer. If you want to refute them, explain why they are wrong.

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[–] Bilbo_Swaggins 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

How? The top mod is letting this happen. The whole place would have to be given, by the admins, to someone else.

As of right now, v/Coonshire is the alternative. Getting our sub back would be better, but I can't imagine the admins giving it to the right person (probably me, but there are others who could do the job as well).

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

@kevdude

Rally the troops

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[–] Bilbo_Swaggins 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

v/Coonshire lives on.

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[–] Vimviki 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It happened several times in 8ch with some boards (the gamergate board moved twice). Report, and fuck the freedom of expresion haters.

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[–] Disappointed 0 points 45 points (+45|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The sub v/niggers has basically been hijacked from the community and because it's not a default nothing can be done. I'm all for sub creators being able to govern the subs they made as they see fit but why should level 2 mods be able to come in and fuck large communities over like this. The right to create and curate a sub should be available to anyone but once the creator has passed on the sub, the community that helped it grow needs to have a say as well.

The admins here are at some point have to address hostile mods in communities. There is nothing stopping a level 2 mod adding other moderators to subs without the communities assent, even on defaults. This member can be be an account designed to fuck the sub over. Some of the older members will remember this happening on v/askvoat a community with over 45k subscribers at the time.

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[–] bob3333 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago 

The sub v/niggers has basically been hijacked from the community and because it's not a default nothing can be done.

That's bullshit. Any mod anywhere on voat that is deleting anything that isn't blatant spam or blatantly illegal should be immediately removed.

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[–] Skyrock 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Curating specific subverses can be a valid reason to have additional rules for what goes in a sub and what doesn't.

v/HistoryAnecdotes for example wouldn't be v/HistoryAnecdotes if you could submit random crap about NASCAR racing or gardening that has nothing to do with historical anecdotes, and such submussions should be deleted as they are off-topic (no matter how legal and non-spammy they are).

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[–] WD-40__ 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Here's an idea: if you amass over 200 points in a particular community, CCP or SCP, you get voting power and can vote a mod out or in. To ensure there's no tomfoolery an ongoing vote will always be stickied and takes a full day. Would this be hard or easy to implement?

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[–] Slayfire122 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

@antiracist, what is the meaning of this? Why are you deleting posts that are months old?

At the time of this comment, /u/antiracist has 93 scp and -713 ccp. He's a voater for 8 months.

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[–] Cuckbot 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago  (edited ago)

@J3w1sh_NeoCon I know you're inactive and have submitted a request to transfer the sub over to @robinwhite but if you see this boot these reddit plants off the level 2 mod spots or even better leave just you and robin white there until it's transferred.

Also @Atko and @Puttitout, I know you are busy but this is reddit bullshit allowing people to take over subs like this.

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[–] Bilbo_Swaggins 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

robinwhite could stop this at any time. The level 1 spot needs to be given to someone who will.

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[–] Cuckbot 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I don't think he can remove other level 2 mods and the best he could do is get in an unwinnable edit war with CSS and stickies. I don't really know anything about him though.

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[–] AtheistComic 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

This is not how contributions to voat should be treated. People's content and comments should not be wiped out for arbitrary reasons or internet spite.

I just had the same problem on another pretender site. Reddit is a shithole and these sites come along promise us a better way but then fail to deliver. Human nature is simple; the idiots rise to the top and normal people don't seek power 24/7.

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[–] ginganinja 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

How does someone with the username @antiracist even become a mod at a sub like /v/niggers?

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[–] Bilbo_Swaggins 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Because the level 1 mod, robinwhite, doesn't like the place or its userbase.

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[–] 5502846 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Okay, so how did an 11 month old account that didn't like the place get the mod position in the first place?

Also, he hasn't posted any submissions or comments in /v/niggers in a month. If there was a level 2 mod that liked the community and wanted to take over, as long as they meet the posting requirement (2 comments and submissions within 30 days prior), CCP requirement (300 in subverse if it has over 1K subscribers), and aren't making multiple requests at once, they could request it right now.

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[–] Secus 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

Looks like https://voat.co/user/Antiracist is going on a delete spree.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago  (edited ago)

antiracist seems highly toxic if he's not just a troll doing it for the lulz. Clicking on his profile you linked to kind of reminds me of something a comrade said to me once: 'You don't debate liberals. You shoot them'. Not that I'm advocating he be shot, naturally, but the mentality it takes to make a post like the following which is listed as one of his most downvoted is an indicator of where America is heading in my opinion:


We run everything. We let you have your faggy site for a time. But soon enough the lot of you will be taken out by snipers and drones, all legal like. Fuck you racists. We're going to kill all you motherfuckers.

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[–] Chronibus 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I'm advocating for him to be shot.

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[–] Tb0n3 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

It's sedition. This thread should be hung as an announcement to show new members what Voat means.

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