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[–] dlogic 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I live in the Netherlands. I am fine with paying for this dude. Some day he has to go out of prison, and get a job. There's no use in punishing people to the point the won't co-operate at all anymore. Just protect society from them if they can't behave. At least, that's what my parents told me once, when I asked them why the fuck the prisons are so cozy.

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[–] GuenMakunikoru 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah, you make prison a hell and he'll come out more of a hardened man with more trouble to adjust to society when he gets out. But muricans dont care, muricans feel better when punishment is put before long term consequences.

I wonder what the recidivism rates are for both countries..