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[–] Cid 16 points -13 points (+3|-16) ago 

Take away the badge and the scenario is completely different. This is like comparing a some random person smashing your car window to a firefighter smashing your car window to get to a hydrant. Like it or not, they do have a job to do and part of their training is to not let someone get the upper hand on them or other people.

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[–] Shagoosty 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

No it's not. The fact that you admit it's a different situation without the gun shows that you know it's fucked up.

Please tell me how this asshole was doing his job by intimidating a random citizen?

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[–] Cid 7 points -5 points (+2|-7) ago  (edited ago)

No it's not. The fact that you admit it's a different situation without the gun shows that you know it's fucked up.

I don't think you understood what I wrote.

Please tell me how this asshole was doing his job by intimidating a random citizen?

That random person was intimidating him by having his hands in his pockets when talking to a cop. You ever see someone get rushed and stabbed? I have. More ground can get covered than a lot of people probably think. If you were 10ft away from me I could have a knife in you in about 2 seconds, and this is not an exaggeration.

People are so blind by their hatred of cops they refuse to even try and understand why certain things happen and just cry "oppression!". If the cop was out of control he would have been screaming and pointing the gun at the guy, or he might have even shot him. The camera guy fucked up plain and simple. You don't push someones buttons and make them feel threatened when they can probably get away with murdering you. You wanna' die? This is how you die. He should consider himself lucky that cop only pulled his gun for quicker self-defense if needed, which could have easily been the case and cops know this. This isn't even a bad policy, especially if there's other people around.

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[–] Cid 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago  (edited ago)

You're partially right. The command "remove your hand from your pocket" has gotten a lot of cops killed and they know this. What's been becoming more popular in their training since the early 2000's in a lot of places is to tell them not to remove their hands, turn around, and then slowly remove their hand(s) from their pocket(s), while being on-guard and ready to to use your firearm at the first sign of trouble. A big part of their training is to be paranoid, constantly alert, and not to fall into a comfort zone where they might slip up. It only takes one act of laziness to get killed.

Either way, to a cop, the refusal is absolutely a threatening gesture. They're trained to secure areas and people, and if you want to be a wild card they are trained and prepared to use deadly force if necessary, and as this video shows will do so in a heart beat.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

It's not completely different. It's a fundamental of policing in developed nations that police officers are members of the community, not separate from it. If I smashed your car window because I had to get at a fire hydrant I would be just as immune to damages resulting from your negligent action as would a fire fighter. The cornerstone of the rule of law is that it applies equally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_Principles