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[–] aLegoInYourShoe [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't think you fully understand the circumstances surrounding these events, and especially not nationalism outside of America.

You have the entire system, the commies, the regular police and the security service (think your FBI) against you.

If you are an outspoken nationalist or NatSoc, you get nightly visits by the commies, your parents likewise. Big rocks are flying through the windows when you're sleeping, your car and house gets vandalized. Your employer will get the same treatment and they will smear you in letters to your boss.

No punishment is ever handed out. The news won't even mention the attacks, because these same people who work in media are in 99% of the cases outspoken communists, and often apart of the commie networks.

You will get swatted and put in prison if they find as much as a pipe on your backyard that can "be made into an improvised shotgun", they always find something.

And at these events, the fucks like this soyboy are throwing rocks/bottles/bangers and then hunting for single nationalists after the event who are outnumbered.

The police often force the demonstrators down into subways, where AFA are waiting (like antifa but brutal and armed, antifa is a joke in comparison). Once you go down there and are outnumbered, the police will attack you from behind at the same time as you are getting attacked by AFA in the front. Afterwards, the papers will call YOU the aggressor.

If people see that they can steal flags from your female members on a demonstration, that behavior will escalate. If you do like these guys, that behavior will stop quite fast. The soyboy asked for it.

Another example is some 7-8 years ago. Every single week, the commies would ambush nationalists on the streets when they had the advantage in numbers. When one commie finally got stabbed in the neck, the attacks stopped.

Same thing with the nightly attacks of people homes, when the commies started having THEIR homes attacked after they had attacked someone, those also stopped. Now they only go after civic nationalists who who still don't understand that violence is a must in some cases. Besides, every single system on earth is upheld by violence. It's nature.

So spare me your preaching.

Edit/TLDR: in a regular fight, I would absolutely agree with what you said. But not when it's systematic like this. And one guy reclaimed the flag, the other neutralized the soy. Their (and a lot of others) duty at this demo were to protect their demo and the members who are not activists, but still want to participate. Like women and elderly.

Here you can see another example but from an even more hardcore organization, their shield bearers are also in charge of security. No matter if AFA or the police attacks them, they will fight back to keep the others safe.

You will get the same situation in America soon enough.

[–] Drowpic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I saw a film on TV once (not in Sweden) about these Swedish "Anti-Fascists". The reporter interviewed like two or three masked youngsters who bragged about going to people's houses and demolishing then, because those people were "Nazis". There was also a night video of a home being vandalized and some kind of slogans written all over the room walls.

I remember being shocked how anything like that can be tolerated, and why police can't find a bunch of "Antifa" fagots if any lame reporter can do that.

Meeting violence with violence and intimidation with intimidation is the only effective strategy in a disfunctional state which is either incapable or unwilling to help the victims.

And that is exactly how the real Nazis came to be in Germany in thirties - as a response to the Communist violence no one was able to contain.

[–] aLegoInYourShoe [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes, that's why SS was formed to begin with when NSDAP's members kept getting ambushed and sometimes killed by (((communists))), always outnumbered of course. The acronym even stands for Schutzstaffel / Protection Squadron.

[–] TheAmerican 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I didn't notice the flag stealing part, someone mentioned it to me and I admitted I was wrong. He deserved it

[–] aLegoInYourShoe [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I figured, but I wanted to rant ;)

[–] jthun2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Too bad those dudes are such a tiny minority in Sweden. They look like my sort of people.