Archived College biker gang mess with the wrong country folk (youtube.com)
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Archived College biker gang mess with the wrong country folk (youtube.com)
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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Only in the sense that the iraq war ended when Bush declared victory on an aircraft carrier. If a civil war happened in the US it would almost immediately turn into a low level guerilla war with IEDs, snipers and security forces being targetted when they're off duty.
Most civil wars these days end either when one party is too exhausted to continue, or when the US steps in and plays peacemaker. The latter option isn't available, so it would grind on until the areas who desire it are de-facto independent and the feds retreat to wherever is willing to have them.
[–] whitedogofpyr 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
You have to consider that a large portion of the feds would side with the rebels, so there'd be nowhere to retreat to. The elites would go to some new zealand bunker, but the civil war wouldn't last very long. It really depends on who's fighting whom. Red vs. Blue wouldn't last long because Red has guns, food, and supply lines. Blue has cities full of hungry people. People vs. Gov wouldn't last long either because of traitors on the gov side. The Gov could order nuke strikes against the people, but that would be really hard to pull off and they'd lose anyway.
I agree with your IED, guerilla war idea, but I can't see a scenario where the exhaustion wouldn't happen quickly. Cut off any major city for 3 days and that city would barely still exist.
[–] Broc_Lia ago
That scenario still seems to be envisioning conventional warfare with well defined fronts and area denial. The farmers wouldn't stop shipping food into the cities, not most of them anyhow. And if they tried the feds would have the clout to institute emergency measures and seize whatever grain silos they needed to. Some of the soldiers might feel bad about it, but most of them would very quickly turn us vs. them when they started getting shot at.
I'd see things as being more like a scenario where there's areas of the country where the feds can no longer travel or live with impunity. They can patrol in force and take minimum casualties, they can set up heavily armed FOBs, but they can never think of doing something like sending the FBI to arrest someone, or sending out FDA inspectors to farms.
The exhaustion wouldn't come from starvation, more from demoralisation and people stopping signing up for a war with no victories. Also, americans would be pretty poor by that point because of all the economic inefficiencies created by the conflict.