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Not trying to be offensive, but I think you're thinking about it too shallowly.
He doesn't mean "negotiate" as in sitting down, debating on terms and conditions, writing out the guidelines, and having everything documented and notarized. Negotiations can be physical, verbal, or abstract. If you're my boss, and I work for you, and I do a good job, I will "negotiate" for respect through an agreed-to "trade" of my hard work and your good management... or, in other words, I've earned it through that "trade." All "earnings" are a series of trades, which happen through some form of mutual negotiation.
As for the "fake respect," that was his point... he even said that, explicitly. He acknowledges that, through force, you can make him "respect" you, but (most likely) not the same way as if he had mutually agreed to respect you.
And your third point contradicts your second point, completely.
I disagree, there is only one true love likewise only one true genuine respect, all others forms are pale shadows meant to deceive the receiver of such
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[–] 8844701? 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
There's three ways to receive respect: earn/negotiate, enslave and force, or become a tyrant (where we currently are)
[–] Apeabel 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago (edited ago)
I disagree slightly. You can't negotiate for respect. You only earn it.
Enslaving and forcing 'respect' will only get you resentment and fake respect.
And you sure can force respect if you're a tyrant but in the Antifa case it's more trying to be respected by tyranny (and failing at that).
[–] theMETA 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
Not trying to be offensive, but I think you're thinking about it too shallowly.
He doesn't mean "negotiate" as in sitting down, debating on terms and conditions, writing out the guidelines, and having everything documented and notarized. Negotiations can be physical, verbal, or abstract. If you're my boss, and I work for you, and I do a good job, I will "negotiate" for respect through an agreed-to "trade" of my hard work and your good management... or, in other words, I've earned it through that "trade." All "earnings" are a series of trades, which happen through some form of mutual negotiation.
As for the "fake respect," that was his point... he even said that, explicitly. He acknowledges that, through force, you can make him "respect" you, but (most likely) not the same way as if he had mutually agreed to respect you.
And your third point contradicts your second point, completely.
[–] 8846234? ago (edited ago)
What I've learnt as salesman is that respect isn't earned, it's owed
Knock on some1's door, tell him "yo mothafuck, buy my shit nigger bitch!" and see how it turns out
Respect must be earned is warzone logic
You don't go in a restaurant and piss on everyone because they didn't earn your respect already
You don't do that
So...
It's not about being earned
But it can definitely be denied
[–] JustFeelsGoodMan 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I disagree, there is only one true love likewise only one true genuine respect, all others forms are pale shadows meant to deceive the receiver of such