Archived Oil train derails in Columbia River Gorge near Mosier, Oregon (youtube.com)
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Archived Oil train derails in Columbia River Gorge near Mosier, Oregon (youtube.com)
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[–] twentyfive ago
pipelines are a million times safer than trains
[–] ReverseEntropy 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Aging pipelines cause huge environmental disasters. Not to mention that they cause a sizable amount of environmental destruction when they are built (which slowly regrows), cause millions of people to lose valuable land through imminent domain, displaces people who are in the path of the pipeline, and generally are known to provide few long-term jobs.
I'm not saying that trains are better, but pipelines have disadvantages that have caused some serious environmental disasters. Plus, the people of Oregon have spoken, and they don't want pipelines going through their state. Primarily because the majority of the oil that is hauled by trains, or that would have been pumped through the pipelines, is not intended for use by the American people, almost all of it is intended for export. They don't like that, and they understand that it benefits them little.
Having spoken to people on this issue, they don't want trains either, but at least that limits what can be moved off-shore. If it was actually going to Oregon, far more people would be onboard, but it isn't, so they oppose both methods of transport--especially when most of it is coming from Canada and just passing through.
Things like this are terrible, but in the long run, it is likely that both would result in about the same amount of environmental disasters, and either way, Oregon benefits little from it.
[–] redditsrunbyfascist 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Why don't you just quote us the statistics.
It would avoid all this awkward talk about how you talked to people like their opinions mattered.
Https://fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/safety-in-the-transportation-of-oil-and-gas-pipelines-or-rail-rev2.pdf
Then take a look at table 5 and 6.
The hard work is done. Pipelines win hands down every time all the time.
Anyone who opposes pipelines is an utter moron who deserves all the derision you can muster.
Unless of course they have a magical replacement for hydrocarbons right now.
[–] twentyfive ago
That's why you inspect pipelines and replace as needed. Pipelines are prefectly safe in comparison