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[–] hrdtak 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Just wondering, where did you get those numbers from?

The linked data seemed to suggest that 2/3 of men were competing for top 1/3 of women when they initiated. Women were initiating much more proportionally across the attractivness spectrum.

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[–] SexMachine [S] 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

If 80% of the guys are unattractive, then only 20% are attractive.

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[–] hrdtak 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago 

Ah, ok, I see what you were looking at.

I don't think I agree with the conclusion that they are only competing for the above average 20%. The data shows that even though the women were rating most of the men as less than medium attractiveness, they were still messaging them proportionally. They apparently still thought they were within their league.

It'd be interesting to see a comparison of how these women rated their own attractiveness to cross-reference. I thought I read another study that showed that women were more likely than men to underestimate their own attractiveness. It is possible that many of these women also only considered themselves a 2 when men would have rated them higher.

Either way, interesting read, thanks for the link.

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[–] River_Otter 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I suppose that, while 2/3 of men are vying for a "slot" with the upper 1/3 of women, the majority of all women are competing to land the top 20% of men. They are not mutually exclusive.

If you're a guy, this means that, if you are not in the top 20% of men, when you land a woman, she will be past her prime and is settling.

If you are a woman and are not married by a certain age, consider yourself in the lower 2/3's of the mating pool, for whatever reason.

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[–] raw 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

I am on the top 80%. Heck, I am on top 95%. Good looking. Fit and healthy. In college after I topped in my whole state with a master's degree in physics. But it is still difficult because I am a conservative. There are no conservative girls left. You only find whores. They don't want you. They don't/won't love you. There are only gold diggers. They want your money and freedom to cheat in your back.

And it makes me very sad to swallow the truth that I will never a conservative girl to die for, live for, to love me, to sleep her arms after a hard day's work and have to live my life playing videogames late into the goodnight.

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[–] SexMachine [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I couldn't tell you how to find a quality girl, I've had no such luck. Even had an extremely short marriage to a church girl, who ended up fucking around... and then getting knocked up by someone else, which delayed the divorce because you can't get divorced in Texas while your wife is pregnant, and then engaged to a different guy than the one who knocked her up.

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[–] raw 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Whoa. This is what I was talking about. A church girl is not a conservative girl. A conservative is a girl who understands the marriage and traditional values, like the ones at v/traditionalwives

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[–] SexMachine [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I remember reading about this, but I'm not expert.

Women are naturally hypergamous, always looking to upgrade to the more alpha male. Basically, in order to even the playing field, men created marriage. Over time marriage came to mean 1 woman, 1 man. There was no upgrading your partner, you were stuck with them, divorce existed, but for extreme reasons, like impotence, excessive physical abuse, adultery. Marriage was a contract, and unless one of those extreme circumstances were present, you left the marriage with nothing, and you were shunned, a pariah to the community.

In comes no-fault divorce(thanks feminism). With the introduction of the no-fault divorce, the contract was meaningless, and your wife could leave you and keep half your wealth on a whim. She doesn't have to prove that you are an adulterer, physically abusive, or anything, because there's no-fault.

This basically tipped the balance of the man/woman relationship, and made marriage completely meaningless. Fewer middle class men and up are willing to get married or have children because they are aware of the consequences of that decision. Even if they have a prenuptial agreement, those are easily voided in the court room.

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[–] TigoleBitties 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Natural selection

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[–] AinzOown 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The graphs were weird, it said women think 80% of guys are below average, ouch, but then go and message them anyway?

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[–] Boyakasha 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Well, some of them probably have money.

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[–] SexMachine [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

"Well, he's got money, and I'm about to hit the wall, so..."

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[–] FreeAgain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well most women never message anyway so that's just a distraction put their to dilute the message.

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[–] thatguyiam 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think the author forgot to consider that for men looks is most important so the men message mostly to hot Chicas. But there is that adage about women considering other aspects of the man not just looks. Money for example. Charm. Etc. To women other things come into play a lot more strongly than to men, when it comes to attractiveness.

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[–] 10443277? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

But but but.... Online dating selects and over-values appearance, and raw attraction is soooooooooo much more than just looks. There are so many other factors playing into how a woman assesses dominance and masculinity. I saw you said that in a comment. But I still have to say that I don't think the title is fair...

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[–] SexMachine [S] 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Yeah, I wasn't trying to be sincere with the title. Didn't think people would take it literally.

There are combined factors in... what was that TRP word? SMV?

Too bad that subreddit died out, it was a useful source of information. Honest information. Which is of course why people hated it.

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[–] ChanceofRain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Most of the old good MGToW voices have fallen by the wayside. Sites closed, YouTubers banned. Even Roosh sold out his RoK site.

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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

But never forget, the more dicks a woman takes the less likely she'll ever be satisfied.

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[–] massiveprivilege 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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