Archived When two people are debating and one of them is an ideologue, what does that make the other? (thought)
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Archived When two people are debating and one of them is an ideologue, what does that make the other? (thought)
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[–] Virtus 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
If two people are in a debate, then there is some level of disagreement. This means there are opposing views. If one of those persons is an ideologue, they are adhering to a certain ideology, most likely very strongly. The other person may or may not also be an ideologue. I think if an individual self-identifies as an ideologue, they should be able to clearly state the ideology to which they subscribe. I also think every point of view is ideological but may not be so in a traditionally identifiable way.
From googling the term ideological you get this: "An ideology is a body of ideas, and those who agree with the main idea of something take an ideological stand to support it."
Every point of view is ideological in the sense that it is just that, an individual's point of view. I do not believe every point of view can or should be labeled with a specific ideology. One person's "liberal" label may be another person's "conservative" label.
What's your take?
[–] flyawayhigh [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I think when something is plain true (putting aside metaphysics and philosophy for second, but basically true within a certain realm), it is not ideological. The definition you posted, which may very well be correct, seems to eliminate a preference for truth over beliefs.
Let's say I tell you that 4 plus 4 equals 9 because God told me so. I think this would clearly be an ideological perspective. What happens when you come back and say something like, "You're wrong, it's 8 based on our understanding of the decimal system"?
[–] Virtus 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
You originally asked if every point of view is ideological. Is a person's point of view not the set of beliefs they follow, whether true or not?
Without getting too political (not my intention here, just an example) would it be fair to say people who are pro-vaccinations possess an ideological belief that is different from people who are anti-vaccinations? Even though science has proven vaccines to be beneficial and anti-vaccine beliefs false, almost exclusively.
If something is plain truth, how is it not ideological?