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[–] middle_path ago 

Hate is literally natural and should be cultivated.

Rape is literally natural, murder is literally natural. Should these be cultivated?

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[–] FreeRebel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Your comment sounds like a reasonable logical question. It is not. It is sophistry. Instead of playing coy rhetorical tricks, can you bring forth any comment that would actually further the discussion? I think not.

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[–] middle_path ago 

In what way is it not logical? You posit that because hate is natural it is acceptable, I'm showing things that are commonly held as unacceptable also being natural. There is no deception.

I'm a big fan of nature, an organic grower, and animal lover. But I do not delude myself to believing that just because something is natural it is good.

This happens so much on this sub. When you are presented with a counter argument that tears the floor out from you, the response is always to assume it's a trick, and somehow pretend it adds nothing to the discussion. @Native just did this yesterday.

If you guys want to be hateful and give yourself a big pat on the back pretending you're all really about love - have fun. But when you begin to embody the monsters that people fear you are, don't come crying about how no one will take you seriously.

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[–] telleveryoneyouknow 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Rape is natural? Last I checked it wasn’t.

Rape has a victim. Same with murder. But I can have as much hate as I want. For example, I hate rapists. Which is entirely ok. If we all hated rapists enough, we would kill them all and have a safer, more prosperous world.

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[–] middle_path 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Rape and murder occur quite frequently in the animal world. I've seen duck drakes rape the shit out of hens. It's brutal and they do it for the sole purpose of procreation.

How does something having a victim make it unnatural?