I had a good discussion with middle yesterday and it's important enough to highlight in a post.
Here is how hate is the truest expression of love:
If you have kids, you love your kids and want to keep them protected, which means that you don't just open your house up to every single random person that shows up claiming he has a van is full of candy and do the kids want some? By definition of being a parent you bare the responsibility of hating strangers because of love to your family.
In other words you can not have Love without setting boundaries, laws and morality, and you can't have boundaries, laws and morality without having hate for those that break it.
We have been brainwashed to think that "hate" is evil when it's not. The opposite of Love is not hate it's indifference, the moslems who beheaded those two girls didn't hate them, they were indifferent as they calmly beaded them. The hate you felt watching the video (and you should watch it if you haven't) is love and compassion for those women because you have a set of morals and ethics that they--the Moslem broke.
For those that have the opportunity to watch those beheadings and haven't, you have no right to an opinion and say that Hate is NOT the True expression of Love because you are a coward and neither understand love, nor compassion, nor empathy.
I hope you watch the video @middle_path that I linked above
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[–] middle_path ago
Rape is literally natural, murder is literally natural. Should these be cultivated?
[–] FreeRebel 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Your comment sounds like a reasonable logical question. It is not. It is sophistry. Instead of playing coy rhetorical tricks, can you bring forth any comment that would actually further the discussion? I think not.
[–] middle_path ago
In what way is it not logical? You posit that because hate is natural it is acceptable, I'm showing things that are commonly held as unacceptable also being natural. There is no deception.
I'm a big fan of nature, an organic grower, and animal lover. But I do not delude myself to believing that just because something is natural it is good.
This happens so much on this sub. When you are presented with a counter argument that tears the floor out from you, the response is always to assume it's a trick, and somehow pretend it adds nothing to the discussion. @Native just did this yesterday.
If you guys want to be hateful and give yourself a big pat on the back pretending you're all really about love - have fun. But when you begin to embody the monsters that people fear you are, don't come crying about how no one will take you seriously.
[–] telleveryoneyouknow 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Rape is natural? Last I checked it wasn’t.
Rape has a victim. Same with murder. But I can have as much hate as I want. For example, I hate rapists. Which is entirely ok. If we all hated rapists enough, we would kill them all and have a safer, more prosperous world.
[–] middle_path 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Rape and murder occur quite frequently in the animal world. I've seen duck drakes rape the shit out of hens. It's brutal and they do it for the sole purpose of procreation.
How does something having a victim make it unnatural?