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[–] middle_path 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Native, you're grasping at straws here. It's ok that we disagree on this.

Here's the shitty part - I understand the motives behind the people doing the beheadings. I don't condone them, I don't like it, and it should stop. But if you were raised the way these people were raised you would grow up the similar radical beleifs and possibly do the same thing. We're all products of our environment. That being said, these men are fully responsible for their actions.

But let's flip this. Is their hate for westerners the truest expression of love?

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[–] NotHereForPizza ago 

The truth entices a moral society. When exposed to the truth, the dark underbelly of human nature is revealed to us, and we shed the shadow of deception that looms over us. The truth is important for these reasons and many others.

The definition of "love" here is rather vague, as OP utilizes a form of the definition that ventures past its typical dictionary explanation. Seems a bit out there for me, but it's easy to see where OP is coming from.

Native essentially claims that we need to see these truths in order to realize the true potentials of evil, as truth carries no discrimination for what people deem pleasant or not. You, on the other hand, seem simply to not want people to watch this.

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

To be sheltered from the truth is to live in ignorance, which deteriorates our perspective of how things should be. Without the knowledge of the truth, we are doomed to live beneath the foot of its captor.

Anyway, Native's quote: "Hate is the truest expression of love." makes sense not because it logically follows, but because being capable of expressing hate denotes the presence of love. See, a child's mother wouldn't never have hated with such fervor if not for a threat against her child. She needs to have love in order to hate. The fact that you haven't deduced such yet tells me, more or less, that you're here to bitch about people finding out the truth about the world.

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[–] Flirp ago  (edited ago)

I would say their hate for westerners is a manufactured hate and they are blindly following it. When you're raised to believe your are a tree you might just believe it till death. It's when your higher IQ tells you this isn't the way to live is when you start to learn to hate logically. But we all know statistically that sand people and jungle dopes are not genetically smart. So they beat sticks thinking they're right all the time and pass that to their kids. I didn't watch the video either because I don't like having that kind of evil rest in my head for not even a second. It's not good for the soul.

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[–] Native [S] ago 

It's not good for the soul.

Yes. Yes it is good for your soul. It forces you to live in reality and sheds all delusions in life. You actually protect your soul more when you force yourself to realize that horrors and evil exist. And a life can be taken calmly. Y evil people.

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[–] middle_path 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I would argue most hate is learned, very little is true and self directed.

On "believing you're a tree" - here's an excerpt from Prometheus Rising.

"There is a Zen story about a monk who, having failed to achieve "enlightenment" (brain-change) through the normal Zen methods, was told by his teacher to think of nothing but an ox. Day after day after day, the monk thought of the ox, meditated on the ox. Finally, one day, the teacher came to the monk's cell and said, "Come out here -- I want to talk to you."

"I can't get out," the monk said. "My horns won't fit through the door."

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[–] Native [S] ago 

Why won't you watch the video?

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[–] middle_path ago  (edited ago)

Why won't you answer my question?

Sorry, dude. I've seen too many beheading videos in my life. Don't care to see another. Spoiler alter - she loses her head.

If you have to constantly reference a video instead of defending your own argument (which was actually that of another author yesterday, not you) then you're pretty worthless and your "serious discussion only" criteria has already failed.