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[–] time3times ago 

Thanks. Sounds quite possible. I don't have the same clarity of vision. So respect others but won't buy in off the cuff. The part that is most murky to me in your sequence above (and most interesting if we already know approximately how the Q-T section plays out) is how we go from the Trump era to the great tribulation. Is it quick? Does it take a thousand glorious years? Is one part spiritual and the other earthly historical? Etc.

Carry on.

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[–] SpiritualPaper ago 

I believe the spiritual and historical are intertwined. The Bible shows that clearly. Think historically. Think Nebuchnezzer. In those days, when a monarch would make laws that would have time differentials, each scroll would have multiple seals on it. Each section to be exposed would stand alone. As each seal is broken to allow the scroll to be unrolled, it would only be opened when the monarch determined it. To us, exactly when the Tribulations begins and which seal starts it. The Lord has expressly indicated to me that we are in the breaking of the first seal which is a precursor to the others which are opened in the time the Lamb of God will determine. He is sovereign in this. We wait on Him. However, He also told us in Matthew about signs of the times. Massive earthquakes are occurring, enormous amounts of volcanoes are erupting- more than in any recording in time. Turkey is on the outskirts of Idlib. Erdogan has declared Turkey to be the new Ottoman Empire (Daniel- 7th empire of last days) which would be Gog (with Magog-Russia). All put together, we see Trump, the believer conqueror, to finalize God's plans and to prepare all Believers (His saints) to be called home.

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[–] time3times ago 

nice info (to be absorbed). and thanks for the greek lesson earlier.

I wonder if the the great tribulation happens after the trump era, maybe way after.

the earthly vs spiritual question was more about people thinking of going from one to the other via rapture without seeing the possibility of a mix both before and after. the "new earth" mystery is intriguing and beautiful.

not to question cynically, do you have some reference for the increase in volcanoes and quakes? I've thought i'd seen increases in the past years but could never find a scientifically acceptable source to present to others.