Archived Snowden: Surveillance is about social control, not terrorism (the-peak.ca)
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Archived Snowden: Surveillance is about social control, not terrorism (the-peak.ca)
submitted ago by go1dfish
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[–] Dereliction 0 points 24 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago (edited ago)
Welcome to the panopticon:
[–] wwwhistler 0 points 21 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago
"He came prepared with a litany of examples to support his controversial thesis"...controversial? really? i don't know about anyone else but i realized this quite some time ago
[–] weezkitty 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
While it isn't controversial to anyone with a brain, there are many many people that believe the government lies
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[–] vacvape 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago
Throw Google in with those.
[–] Jpaul199 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago
See: 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, the animes Psycho-Pass 1 and 2, etc etc etc.
If the people had any sense at this point we would have already stopped Govt from using invasive surveillance.
[–] CONGLOM-O 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Almost seems too late. Only one presidential candidate, at least of Democrats and Republicans, advocates for reigning in domestic surveillance. Honestly it seems just a matter of time before the rich have the privilege of shutting off their telescreens for a few hours everyday.
[–] rwbj 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
And before now there were exactly 0 candidates in favor of reigning in domestic surveillance.
I think it's easy to get frustrated when you look at things only from your perspective. Imagine for a second you're a part of establishment politics. You want to maintain the US economic might through reliance on the petro dollar and using our military to support such. You want to reign in any sort of organized protest against the government through domestic surveillance and pitting the people against each other on petty matters while ignoring most of what matters. You want to globalize America's economy and force American workers to be forced to compete against Indian workers happy to perform technical tasks for $3/hour.
And now let's look at what's actually happening:
That's just in the past couple of years. Do you think things are going to get more or less favorable for establishment politics in the years to come? Let's imagine Hillary wins this year. After 8 years of her selling off our country and policy to the highest bidder, how do you think people are going to be acting in 2020? 2024? And that's just 8 years. How about 16, 24, 40 years down the line? The petro-dollar? HAH! Tesla was overwhelmed with pre-orders for an electric vehicle coming out in 2 years and the prices will only drop at the same time performance continues to skyrocket. And an increasing number of people are already generating enough home electricity off renewables that they're independently selling surplus back to the grid.
Yeah, you think things look bad for us? Look at the world through the eyes of the establishment.
[–] Angry_fapkin 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Upvoat for mentioning Psycho-Pass.
[–] the_magic_man 2 points 9 points 11 points (+11|-2) ago
Yet the American government has convinced its population that there's "terrorists" everywhere, so these laws are needed. Even voat users are convinced they'll be raped by a Muslim unless Donald Trump stops them coming into the country
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[–] CONGLOM-O 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Only apparent to those who pay attention. I would say the people not paying attention are the majority.
[–] gregorypeckerwood 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
They did a public poll a few months back and nobody knew who Snowden was, and most of the people who knew said he's a traitor.
[–] geosprintforever 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Too bad 'muricans still are pursuing this course of totalitarianism.