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[–] Kleyno 3 points 55 points (+58|-3) ago 

So, am I renting this iPhone, or do I own it?

Fuck you Apple.

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[–] sctoor 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

You're renting their ideas, of course. Come on, that phone doesn't cost $700; the phone costs $50 in parts and $650 in imagination sprinkles.
You can't buy their ideas, that would just be silly.
Look at iTunes, you don't own any of that, you're just paying for the rights to use it occasionally, when they want to let you.
/s

If people hate Apple's shitty policies they shouldn't buy their products, but this is nothing new. This will not change. Apple will continue to fuck over consumers and people will beg for more because it's hip to buy their products.

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[–] Fayth 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Look at iTunes, you don't own any of that, you're just paying for the rights to use it occasionally, when they want to let you. /s

It's not sarcasm when it's completely true...

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

to quote that one black dude MKBD (however its spelled) "they'll get used to it"

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[–] BigCheeze 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

The people who hate Apple's policies are the ones who also can't makes sense of it. They become Microsoft customers and look how that has worked out for them. Apple is trying to stop the very thing that everyone is complaining about Microsoft doing only Apple's threat is that their open sourcing opportunities that they have created thousands of great companies to start up has also allowed for thousands of fraudulent companies to start up so its up to Apple to filter the good ones from the bad ones. Microsoft doesnt have this issue because they own all their software, or did (I don't know what they currently do).

If Apple didn't reject applications for apps that steal your information, do you think the average people would know how to determine if some app is stealing their information?

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[–] draaaak 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Does Apple think you own the music you download through iTunes? NOPE

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[–] ButcherOfBlaviken 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Fuck what Apple thinks, I copied my itunes tracks to my music directory and uninstalled itunes.

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[–] 123_456 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you decide to put your songs onto some sort of storage medium, then yeah, you can argue that you own it. I think it's now legal to burn legally downloaded songs to CD.

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[–] Ghetto_Shitlord 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If you read the TOS, you really are kind of renting.

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[–] BigCheeze 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Think about it tho. Any app could turn on a function that spies on your or sends you location data without you even knowing. They're better at looking out for us then our own government.

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[–] draaaak 2 points 37 points (+39|-2) ago 

Imagine if this happened with your car when you took it to a non-dealership mechanic, or heaven forbid, worked on it yourself.

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[–] DrColossus 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I heard that you can void your warranty by not having the oil change and other maintenance done at the dealer. I've never owned a car that was still under warranty so I don't know.

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[–] AStranger 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Voiding the warranty is one thing, but if you choose to do repairs yourself and void the warranty, it should not stop the device from working anyways after detecting 3rd party repairs were performed. Apple simply wants to own a monopoly on the repairs that are done on their phones so that people won't try getting them repaired for a fraction of the price from some other company, allowing them to charge whatever they like on their repair services without worrying about competition.

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[–] FetusChrist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Had a friend lease a car from a shady dealer. They put a lock on the hood till it was paid off.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You definitely can void it if you don't keep the records for every single maintenance. All they have to do is point out the one time you went way past the miles on an oil change and then say that caused the problem. Only exception would be if there was a recall on that particular item. But all of that applies even if you go to the dealer because they sometimes lose records.

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[–] Slayfire122 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

That's only true for high end cars like Ferraris. They get away with it because 1: Those people make a shit-ton of money, and 2: They include "mandatory" maintenance that only they can preform.

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[–] kyprioth 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Isn't it that way for tractors?

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[–] theoldguy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

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[–] A_Fringe_Element 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Cars don't have biometric security in them.

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[–] draaaak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

For now......

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[–] ninjai 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This sorta almost happened with john Deere

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[–] 2716057 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

Affected users are supposed to contact Apple Support... For WHAT, exactly?

We've just been told they're turning affected users away and telling them their property is now "junk." What good is it going to do me to take my bricked phone to a store, get mad at some Apple kid, and spend the next several months in jail for aggrivated assault?

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[–] Kleyno 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

Apple are going to get sued for this. It doesn't matter what ToS crap they make you accept when you upgrade, a company cannot intentionally brick property which they do not own, simply because they do not agree with how you are using it.

They can void the warranty, refuse free of charge service, yeah, but they cannot break your property. Last I checked, that was illegal. So if it can be proved Apple is doing this intentionally, we're in for some fun times.

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[–] tomlinas 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

JFYI it's not bricked, the software running on it has just had its license revoked as it believes it's running on unapproved hardware. Every iDevice owner agreed to this in the EULA. You still own every piece of an error-53'd iPhone you owned the day before it got 53'd. Unfortunately those parts don't work without the piece Apple owns, and Apple is going to take its ball and go home if you dare to not pay them whenever you need anything.

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[–] DickHertz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They can just claim it is a security feature that prevents the device from being compromised through hardware alteration.

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[–] Mr_Quagmire 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So they can tell you that you need the iphone 7, of course.

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[–] Quawonk 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

The sheeple will still buy their overpriced crap by the millions.

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[–] DickHertz 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Who cares? Maybe you should mind your own business and worry about the stupid shit you spend money on dickhead. You aren't worth the piss that runs down Apple shareholders pants so who really gives a fuck for the opinion of a nobody that makes nothing.

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[–] 3dk 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Why am I not surprised? This is the direction apple has been heading for years.

Just look at how hard they always tried to prevent iPhones from being jail broken.

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[–] Torchhead 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Apple shows again that it is interested in on your money, not you.

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[–] ThisIsntMe123 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

Well, their repairs aren't usually that much more expensive. Friend had her iPhone 6 screen crack. Took it to a third party and thought it was a great deal for $100 for a repair. Apple down the street wanted $109. IMHO, for the $9 more, the Apple store would be better.

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[–] DrRedbeard 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

That's not usually the case. Apple is usually far more expensive. You'd obviously be stupid to use a third party to save $9.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Except if you don't live near an Apple Store. Then travel is an issue. We have a ton of repair places here but the nearest Apple Store is 100 miles away.

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[–] willyray 9 points 4 points (+13|-9) ago 

I feel like people are hating on Apple because it's Apple, or they haven't read the article. It's a security feature. Someone could replace your home button with one that could be saving your fingerprints. What are you going to do when a hacker puts malware on your phone, steals your personal information, passwords and fingerprints?

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Then why not check for it and warn someone instead of bricking it. Bullshit it is a security feature. If Microsoft bricked your PC for using an unapproved input device people would be livid.

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[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Because it's not for your security it's for the security of apples' s profits.

Also ITT some of the most obvious apple shilling I've ever seen.

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[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Really now? If I wanted to steal your fingerprint, I'd offer you a bottle of free soda, not steal your phone, go edit your hardware (and magically know how to get it to interface with Apples software!). Really, this is the weakest defense of fapple I've ever seen.

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[–] willyray 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

If there's malware on the Touch ID you can steal a lot more than just a fingerprint. Anything on the phone could be stolen such as private documents, passwords or even bank account details.

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[–] Foobarbaz 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You make that sound so trivially easy. Let's make the reality check here: If someone is going through that much trouble, do you really think they can't find some other way?

How about the take a hammer to your hands until you give up the pin? How many whacks would it take for you, personally, to give it up?

Remember, this isn't a remote thing. This is a physical access thing. Something that requires them to do in person.

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[–] Ghetto_Shitlord 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Or just get you to disable touchid at gunpoint.

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[–] 1rash 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

When are companies going to realize that when I purchase a device or a software IT IS MINE! I can 'tamper' with it however I want!

Edit: weird grammar...

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[–] TheRealAmalek 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Never they want perpetual profits

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[–] tomlinas 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

When are you going to realize that the EULA you agreed to because it's packaged with every iDevice states that the software on IT IS APPLE'S! They can 'tamper' with it whenever they want!

You're free to run any other OS / ROM image on your phone that will support it. Unfortunately you picked an ecosystem which has only one contender (by their own design) and they've taken their ball and gone home.

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