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[–] sunderkeenin 2 points 51 points (+53|-2) ago  (edited ago)

That's not a push. That's a shove. That's a desperate dragging with all their god damned might. They know that most average people don't know how to turn this shit off, so they make use of it and ABUSE IT. I hope Windows 10 crashes, burns, and throws us all to Linux, because once things settle down after that the world will be a much better place.

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Although I am seriously concerned as to the potential outcome of this, there is one shred of hope in the mess - if they're pushing so hard that they have to do this, what do they know that isn't public?

Could they be, perhaps, scared?

I'm betting 'yes.'

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Windows 10 absolutely will crash and burn for a lot of those "upgrades". I have a laptop that barely runs 7. It came with XP. No way is it going to run 10. I couldn't even find drivers for 10 for another laptop that's only 4 years old. I was trying to use it as a 10 test bed and I could barely get it to work. I managed to find 7/8 drivers that I could force into installing for some of the necessities but I still have no video card drivers for it because AMD doesn't support 10 for that card. It sucks, but it works for my purposes. However, if you were a home user it would essentially mean you could no longer play games on your laptop.

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[–] placoid 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Have you tried Ubuntu?

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[–] DeltaBravoTango 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Push leads to shove.

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago  (edited ago)

https://voat.co/v/technology/comments/459263

Script to fix everything. Updated frequently by @thepower. Edited to give props, good man.

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[–] Voopin__Voopin 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

this is very helpful, and should be higher up.

Ive had it saved for a few months, but never needed to run it. I guess that just changed.

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[–] Declined 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Unless they changed this recently the updates will unhide and be reinstalled (especially if you have auto updates). The most sure way to stop the upgrade is to edit the registry. Microsoft actually released a guide how to do this just before their Professional push. On phone so just going to link it. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 Ignore the group policy guide unless you have windows server for some reason. Just add the two registry values.

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'll remember! Thankyou!!

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[–] arrggg 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This open-source script works great, uninstalls and blocks other spying updates too, stops services, blocks microsoft ips, and makes your system run better by turning off all the services needed to spy on you.

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[–] Alopix 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

It's simple, at this point: between the back-ported spying and windows 10 spam, everyone should have their automatic updates turned completely off. Not even "download and ask to install." Only manually allowing security patches, and the road Microsoft is on they'll make those untrustworthy at some point as well.

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I've had my automatic upgrades turned off for ages. They've crippled more than one PC I've been in charge of.

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[–] piquat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm in a pickle. I have them turned off on the machines at my house, but my parents.... do I turn them off there? GWXControlPanel has held it off up to this point.

My options are

1) Linux

2) Turn off updates and hope for the best

3) DL and ask then remote in periodically and sift through them all (this really sucks)

Hmmmm.....

I guess I should start with imaging the damn thing. It's a Dell, not like I have an install disk to do this over if I have to. :(

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[–] stillinit 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I ALWAYS turn automatic updates off on EVERY piece of hardware and software I have owned since I got my first computer in 1996. Yeah auto updates weren't a thing back then but I never upgraded unless I had to or wanted to. Never had any problems. Newer versions are usually worse and use more memory for no apparent reason. Whatever alleged security you gain is not worth the hassle, especially if you back up your important files every now and then.

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[–] BustyChicksFTW 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The issue is that legitimate performance patches are also mixed in with the rest. WIN10 without updates is wonky and crashes more often than one might think.

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[–] Aoteamerica 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I air gap my windows install. Only my Linux install can access the internet.

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

To be honest, I'm waiting for there to be some kind of class-action lawsuit for destruction of data. EULA or not, they're wholesale replacing the product that these people paid for, and trying to trick them into accepting it, and it's ruining computers in the process.

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[–] Doc_Brown_Lives 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been one already since many people with data caps blew through them unintentionally when MS first forced 10 on them.

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[–] redditor1255 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Its like if I had a 2010 mustang and Ford stole it and replaced it with a 2011 mustang. It doesn't matter if Ford thinks its better, it matters if I'm okay with it.

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[–] strange_69 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Hmmm, if I bought and paid for Windows 7 and agreed to it's TOS, then later MS pushes/forces Windows 10 on me and I do not agree to it's TOS, did they just steal Windows 7 from me?

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[–] Pawn 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

MS is really trying to push hard to get people on win 10. Damn son, ya'll need to chill out.

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Looks like they're trying to push hard to get people to install Linux to me, from my weird perspective.

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[–] wootnessmonsters 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I have recommended Linux Mint to almost every geek I know, the problem is they are all gamers. So, instead they are installing this "antispy for windows 10" thingy. I am smelling big bullshit on this app, does anyone know if this really works? Also even if it does, I'm sticking with Linux, which I have for almost a year now :o

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No clue. I've seen other applications claim to be anti-spy of one sort or another, but I'm pretty certain that the only way to have a real fighting chance against that would be to have some kind of filter running on the router. Even then, it would need to be constantly updated. The biggest problems, however, are, first of all, proving it works (not too difficult, but probably difficult nonetheless), and second, keeping up with Microsoft, who will throw off these attempts with relative ease with their forced patching.

After all, can't have the consumers actually controlling the computers they paid for, since they're Microsoft's rightful property, right?</sarcasm>

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[–] wootnessmonsters 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

at the very least I was able to convince them that the next computer they buy to have Linux-compatible hardware that they check on ubuntu or mint website. I showed them the Mint website and ALSA soundcard compatible website...so they know if shit hits the fan there's alternatives...

Man i used to brag a little about being a Linux user just for fun, but now I feel like a criminal not telling them that there is an OS there that does NOT fuck around like microsoft does, not as user-friendly, but not impossible. I just keep praying for Vulkan (API) to fucking gtfo already so the DX12 games works. It was supposed to be released by end of 2015 but..yeah...wtf :\

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[–] 4137445? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I gave it a try. It does some things right and also messes up your registry. I had a few apps break because of it. Better off using Voat's homebrew script IMO.

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[–] TimberWolfAlpha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Spybot Anti-Beacon plugs a lot of the holes, but is it plugging ALL the holes? how can you be sure? Updates are mandatory too, so it'd be trivial for them to patch against the hole plugging.

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[–] Quawonk 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Big Brother must get into your computer! They'll do whatever it takes.

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[–] MaunaLoona 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

On the bright side, most people have so little room on their hard drives that the upgrade to windows 10 won't install.

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[–] Quawonk 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Actually not a bad idea to do that on purpose. Wonder what would happen.

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[–] Tabbynya 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Probably starts deleting your grandmother's ashes to make room.

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[–] Ulluses 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I wouldn't be surprised if it deleted everything in your downloads folder, then your documents and then your program files. If there still isn't enough room then it would set you up a cloud account with microsoft for more storage and then send your browser history to your mother using outlook.

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