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[–] pepepepepe 0 points 52 points (+52|-0) ago 

Well it's not like this is oriented toward little hobbyist quadcopters, right? Who would care about those? They're probably just talking about those giant monstrosity RC planes that cost like tens of thousands of dollars and have actual jet engines and shit.

Wait, what? That's exactly who they're targeting this after? Fuck me.

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[–] 123_456 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

The American government is fucked up. They're just twisting everyone by their balls and trying to see if they can collect the juice. No one should have to register anything.

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[–] heroinwinsagain 3 points 19 points (+22|-3) ago 

legal terms around registering involve giving up rights. like registering your car with the DMV. we already have a right to travel, when we register, we give these rights up for privileges.

the united states government / corporation is becoming the biggest enemy in the entire world, even towards it citizens.

unless people go a long with this stupidity, its going to take some force to get the government back in line.

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[–] TheDude2 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Fuck me

Buy me dinner first

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Just gonna order it from amazons prime air drone delivery service. Hope you like their pantry selection!

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[–] akuta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

From what I read earlier, it's anything weighing over half a pound.

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[–] arrggg 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The FAA pdf states only 238 caused any kind of reportable event. Considering it says 1.6 million are sold per year, that does not seem significant enough to warrant a new tax and spending 56 million dollars.

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

thats just an excuse.

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[–] stradian 2 points 23 points (+25|-2) ago  (edited ago)

BUT THE MILITARY USES THEM TO KILL PEOPLE. THEREFORE IT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED </hysteria>

Seriously though, its a cash grab akin to the BATFE. Probably a 200 to 1000 dollar tax stamp to 'legally' use the thing you just legally bought.

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[–] KyJoCaThe2nd 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

A $5 registration fee?

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[–] canbot 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

You had to fly those line of sight. Drones give you a birds eye view. The tech isn't there to fly effective cameras but it still scares people. Eventually cheap drones could become much better and the FAA is passing legislation for that possibility.

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[–] Moderately_soluble 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, you don't need line of sight for an rc plane either. "Drones" (its called a fucking multi-rotor btw, not scary drone) use exactly the same things you can use on rc planes It's a platform

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[–] revofire 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They don't want us to have proper equipment to do so we please with.

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[–] Water 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Quadcopters/ drones are much much easier to fly than an planes. To fly a large RC plane there are areas to clubs with space to fly them with legal protections such as insurance for the group. With quadcopters the average person can buy one and fly it at home in one day.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

something behind it also blame the idiots calling to ban 'drones' because they can have cameras on them. idiots

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[–] Liber 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

One can only hope Americans will be smart enough to not register any of their drones, having the right to bear arms I think would come under this if you say want to mount your drone with a machine gun.. or a flame thrower?

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[–] kurfu 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

"machine gun.. or a flame thrower"

Hmm... that's a tough choice... how about both?

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Mass civil disobedience is the best way to take down bullshit like tis

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[–] hypercat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Or just make their own instead of buying them.

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[–] cmor88 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This poses another interesting question.. is it classified as a drone, or a firearm at that point?

Who regulates weaponized drones? BTAFE or the FFA?

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[–] Moderately_soluble 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's a registered "drone" (sigh) carrying a registered firearm.

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[–] hypercat 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

This is so moronic. We have had RC planes for years. Do those need to be registered now too? Never had a problem before.

They state there were only 238 complaints of "unsafe drone use" whatever the fuck that is. So make a law against unsafe drone use. It is NOT going to stop people from not registering, making their own, or god forbid a terrorist from using one. Like a criminal is really going to register a drone because he's scared of a fine? Ha. This is only punishing hobbyists.

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[–] Tadddd 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

RC planes have strict FAA regulations.

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[–] nameless1up 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

All UAV's have strict FAA regulations, and have had for decades. There where hobby planes in that late 80's big enough to carry a security camera, it just never got popular because of cost. This is just the next big thing media/governments can use as a scare tactic. Talk to any commercial pilot and their biggest fear is usually laser pointers, not drones.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Those big ol giant ones yea... its gonna suck for those people mainly, the ones that fly extremely high

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[–] Bobo_Palermo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"complaints".

Those likely aren't warranted complaints. It's like saying we have 2000 people complaining that they contracted autism through vaccination.

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[–] KyJoCaThe2nd 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

From the FAA FAQ:

Q. Do I have to register a paper airplane, or a toy balloon or Frisbee?

A. No. Even if these things could be considered "drones" or "unmanned aircraft" and met the minimum weight threshold of 250 gm/0.55 lb., the registration rules also require that they be a part of an "unmanned aircraft system." An "unmanned aircraft system" includes the communication links and components that control the small unmanned aircraft along with all of the other elements needed to safely operate the drone. Paper airplanes, toy balloons, Frisbees, and similar items are not connected to such control system.

Our tax dollars at work, ladies and gents.

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[–] billdred 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So what if someone believes they can control those objects with their mind, albeit poorly?

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[–] KyJoCaThe2nd 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Then obviously they have to be registered. Can't you read?

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[–] Brashtacks 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Useful context, thanks!

Have an upgoat.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Have some upmilk with some upcookies. Just dont throw em up......

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[–] Brashtacks 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What about an autonomous drone? I'm imaging one that has an integral navigation system, and therefore isn't connected or reliant on any external inputs.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So you can fly a manned aircraft without these rules then? :S

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[–] KyJoCaThe2nd 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Without these rules? Yes. These rules are for Unmanned Aircraft Systems.

There are other rules for manned flight, of course.

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[–] firex726 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Seriously... That's only 4 years away, why would it cost so much?

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[–] 123_456 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Seriously... That's only 4 years away, why would it cost so much?

Why does it cost so much? Some people are trying to get rich or keep their cushy jobs going. Seriously, government is so fucking scammy. $56 million to register hobby "drones"? What the fuck are they doing? If you don't register you can get fined up to $275,000. The fuck.

Wouldn't it just be cheaper to mandate educational material and warnings on drones being sold?

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[–] TheDude2 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'll do it for 27,999,999 and the company will be "run and owned" but a retarded, deaf, and blind black woman.

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[–] multidan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I will do it for 14,000,000. Seriously though, one person could get this set up in a few weeks. Maybe a small team if you want it halfway secure, but our government doesnt really care about that.

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[–] HenryDavidThoreau 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

THIS PERSON FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!!!!!!!!

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[–] greycloud 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

good luck enforcing that on children who are exempt from legal liability.

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[–] cyks 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Just imagine all the wasted man hours of law and code enforcement as they play cat and mouse with drones.

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[–] revofire 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

All because they want to control us.

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[–] cmor88 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Parents or legal guardians are responsible for the actions of said minors.

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[–] ChaoticNeutral 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That's why they can fine the parents. Your kid commits a crime, you get to pay the fine.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Thats some stupid logic imo. You cant control someones will. You can be the best parent u can be but if someone starts going on a random killing spree, thats on THEM! The parents could have always said and done right by their kid and never let them leave the house or watch tv or internet, but when the kid is at school, its on the kid if they snap and go crazy.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You got a point, kids get away with some stuff and they know it. Remember those network hacks on gaming consoles? Those kids got away with a slap on the wrist and some even benefited from it.

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[–] kurfu 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Just in time for Christmas, kids!

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I was thinking about that too. I'm sure many people have already bought them as gifts and are ready to give them, and now the recipient has a few extra hoops to jump through that the giver couldn't have anticipated. Not to mention the registration fee is now a locked-in cost, to a degree.

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[–] glennvtx 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Just don't fucking register it, geeze.

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[–] thrus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Honestly if getting it as a gift the odds are it will not be registered. one of two things will likely happen. A) they didn't buy it so don't look into the rules and so don't even know they need to. B) they see on the news that they have to go through this process and don't want to be bothered so either toss the drone or leave it to gather dust on a shelf.

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[–] Project2501 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Did you miss the awesome video from last year?

In all its glory.

They know they are being purchased as gifts.

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