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[–] 3312259? 0 points 80 points (+80|-0) ago 

It's also spyware.

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[–] Troll 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

And adware.

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[–] skidmark-steve 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

And expensive. (points at new license price tag)

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

and fondleware

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[–] 3317460? 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

and shovelware.

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[–] AOU 8 points 29 points (+37|-8) ago  (edited ago)

Bill Gates is a share holder of Monsanto.

He never travels without his chef who carries GMO-free food.

Water wets.

Fire burns.

Andromeda will eventually collapse with the Milky Way.

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[–] Cid [S] 5 points 46 points (+51|-5) ago 

GMOs aren't inherently bad and Monsanto is just a fucked up corporation. They're related in the same way hamburgers are related to McDonalds. I'd be more likely to believe Gates is caught up in big organic propaganda because he's rich as fuck and wants to do anything he can to prolong his life.

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[–] onegin 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

How would supporting "big organic" be a good way to prolong his own life? He could just buy premium shit from an independent farmer.

Also, I agree that GMO's aren't inherently bad, but if we let companies run wild with things like this they will kill us all.

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[–] AOU 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

We better get used to eat [more] insects [than we already do].

The movie Interstellar is a like Idiocracy, it's a prophecy that will come true.

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[–] KingWallop 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

How do you know if GMO's are "Bad" there has been Zero independent testing done.

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[–] ABitStiffyInHere 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

I mean, Microsoft may be malware, but Gates ownership of Monsanto shares isn't really related. He owns 500,000 reportedly, Monsanto currently trades at something like 390 million. Not really a significant portion and could easily be explained by a personal investor's diverse portfolio, considering they are very good on their returns.

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[–] WhiteRonin 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Agree.

Copy be just shares that we were spread across several portfolios so why people getting triggered?

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[–] Pawn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Kind of impossible to find non GMO food at this point unless you go for the non edible type stuff...which isn't really food..

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[–] Dark_Shroud 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Bill Gates has already done a lot of good for the world and will continue to do so just with his investments long after he's dead.

His "poop water" device alone is going to help the world in water reclamation and massively cut sewage costs here in the West.

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[–] luckyguy 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

With both Dell and Lenovo having security flaws in their OEM version of Windows you have to wipe the computer anyway and install your own license of windows. Save yourself a license and just put the linux in. Unless you're gaming there is no excuse. Use virtualbox to run ReactOS for windows stuffs.

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[–] Fambida 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

How good is ReactOS vs say using WINE or just a Win7 VM?

Also, even if you're gaming, Linux is pretty good nowadays.

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[–] FiveTwoZero 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

ReactOS has stability issues compared to Linux/WINE. This isn't too much of a surprise, as ReactOS tries to implement Windows compatibility with drivers, but suffers in that regard in much the same way WINE suffers with incompatible applications.

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[–] luckyguy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I decided to look into it pretty much right after I wrote my comment and only saw your comment now. Well it sucks. I'm so used to things in the OSS world working I figured it would just work. See, linux has spoiled me.

Win7 VM is great though. I just wanted to give a suggestion that didn't need a license. What's great about a win7 VM is you can do a base install and a few programs and then clone it. Set up your data to go on a different drive that clones can access. If one goes a little defunct you have an option of just reverting back. Because of dynamic sized vdi you can declare your hard drive size to be 200G and the initial clone will stay nice and small while you have unlimited room for growth in what should only be a system drive.

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[–] tomlinas 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Sorry, I read the whole wiki article...I don't see how this relates to Win10?

The GNU article raises some good points though, for the non-enterprise users out there.

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[–] Megacrazy 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Eh this article applies to Apple products and services as well. I don't see a huge outrage over that though.

I think it's safe to say every piece of software developed lately is spyware. It's too late to be upset over that. We all signed up for Facebook in droves...so we set the pieces in motion. So before you go on some crazy conspiracy theory path about Gates...get off Facebook and stop using your phone. It's all spyware.

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[–] Cid [S] 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Eh this article applies to Apple products and services as well. I don't see a huge outrage over that though.

The FSF has plenty to say about Apple and phones as well. Just because this specific article is directed at Microsoft don't think for a second no one else is getting any attention from them (especially phones).

I think it's safe to say every piece of software developed lately is spyware.

No. A lot of software is FOSS and can be proved with 100% certainly to not be malicious.

So before you go on some crazy conspiracy theory path about Gates.

The article never once mentioned Gates. It's about bad practices that a company is doing, not what some perceived evil master mind is having them do.

Read more and assume less.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

A lot of software is FOSS and can be proved with 100% certainly to not be malicious.

You can't prove the negative, but you can be very sure there's no fuckery.

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[–] Megacrazy 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

The FSF has plenty to say about Apple and phones as well. Just because this specific article is directed at Microsoft don't think for a second no one else is getting any attention from them (especially phones).

Read more understand more. I fail to see how all my comments have to be related to the article. And no, not everyone is getting the same attention. This Windows10 bullshit has to stop. You don't like it...don't use it. Get a Mac or go to Linux if the grass is that much greener on that side.

No. A lot of software is FOSS and can be proved with 100% certainly to not be malicious.

That's actually pretty funny. I wish I had your optimism and trusted code 100%

The article never once mentioned Gates. It's about bad practices that a company is doing, not what some perceived evil master mind is having them do.

Read the comments in the thread you're posting.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

"We all drank the Kool-Aid, let's drink more Kool-Aid?" No, we didn't, not all of us. I didn't touch Facebook, for instance, and for things like Google, when all the competition is obliterated or turns to crap (as most other search engines did), it's very hard to say "no," and when the position is taken advantage of, that's a lovely little thing we call a monopoly. It doesn't help that in a lot of cases the "options" don't consider the spyware part very optional, and that's no one's fault but the companies. While technically you had a choice in all of this, you also have a choice in living without water or electricity, and getting from LA to New York by car or on foot. That doesn't make it a very realistic option for most people who want to live a normal life, or most people in general for that matter.

Modern software is often spyware, yes. That is no justification and it's still just as wrong. If someone robs you it's just as much their fault if they led you elsewhere to do it or grabbed you from behind in the middle of the street.

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[–] Ghetto_Shitlord 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So its Google's fault no one else can attract search customers? They should be punished where they are winning and everyone else is losing?

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[–] Megacrazy 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Well I didn't touch Facebook either but our choices in terms of operating systems and search agents are pretty slim. Yes there are alternatives but none are realistic.

I am not advocating drinking more kool aid but articles like this are silly. They provide little evidence as to what the info being collected is used for and they just sound like conspiracy theories. In the end its called capitalism. You don't like the product so stay away from it. That simple. No need for all this drama...especially when the vast majority of people seem to be ok with everyone spying on them.

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[–] Laserchalk 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The same applies to google as well.

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[–] ninjai 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yup. Completely agree. The internet is just am open market. We are all cattle ripe for the picking. Everyone and their dog is tracking you and we all have relatively accurate profiles built up about us on various databases on the internet. Facebook, Google, Microsoft, ad companies, etc. Don't contribute to internet discussions or log into accounts and use tor is there only way to be mostly safe.

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[–] nosg 5 points 13 points (+18|-5) ago 

It is known. People just don't care. "BUT MUH GAMES!"

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[–] FiveTwoZero 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

SteamOS. Plus the fact about a quarter of the Steam library now runs on it.

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[–] destinthegreat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Linux games tend to perform worse than their windows counterparts due to a combination of drivers and shitty porting thougn

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

SteamOS

Contains the proprietary Steam client. It's only safe so long as Steam doesn't arbitrarily decide to go against you.

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[–] friso 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

winehq.org. Check the Platinum and Gold lists. Plenty of games run on wine. Also: gog.com and Steam.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If people love a specific game enough that they're willing to constantly fight their OS over privacy, I can understand that. There are measures you can take to try to cut out the spying that Windows does as long as you understand its a constant arms race. For some gamers its worth that in order to have access to their full library. Many are switching to Linux as the amount of Linux-supported games crosses their threshold for "good enough".

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[–] ninjai 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I switched because I game a lot less now. My last feat was running legacy of the void beta in Linux lol. Played it there times and haven't had time since... Spend more time now doing video editing

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[–] tonyp7 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well I care... 'BUT MUH GAMES!'. I'd switch to Linux if I could but as the PC is my main gaming device today this is still not possible.

Dualboot is nice on paper but let's be serious noone wants to boot from one OS to another just to launch GTA5.

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[–] ninjai 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Or chrome/Firefox. Lol

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[–] Grumpy_Old_Man 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I dumped Microsoft about about 4 months ago and started using Linux.

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[–] jaceame 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

No what? That can't be right? It's just collecting all your personal data. Since when has that ever been malicious.

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