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[–] fightforthehive 3 points 165 points (+168|-3) ago 

Pirate everything, don't forget to seed.

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[–] Kaizervonmaanen 14 points 48 points (+62|-14) ago 

But remember, if they are American their tax money goes to war that causes the refugee crisis in Europe

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[–] skidmark-steve 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

... as long as the creator treats you like a human being and doesn't subject you to invasive DRM malware which accomplishes nothing, except making you regret paying for said product.

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[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Research shows pirates tend to buy more content than non-pirates.

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[–] gramman74 6 points -2 points (+4|-6) ago 

F you

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[–] Scine 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I'd recommend Ubuntu/Sonarr/Couch Potato/NZBGet. But in general, yes, you are absolutely right :)

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[–] InDifferent 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I actually went back to torrents because everything on Usenet was always incomplete. Has it gotten any better?

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[–] 51rH0n3y84d93r 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Arrrrr!

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[–] supernatendo 1 points 92 points (+93|-1) ago  (edited ago)

"Piracy" is a pejorative term. It attempts to equate digital sharing and open-ness with the practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea, killing, beheading, raping, kidnapping, enslaving, human trafficking, and pillaging.

in order to actually “steal” something, you must deprive the owner of whatever that thing is.

That’s not to say that copyright infringement is or isn't morally justifiable (arguments can be made for and against both viewpoints).

It is much more appropriate to equate file sharing with concepts like unauthorized use, trespass, and misappropriation, rather than trying to equate digital copying and sharing with "piracy".

It does a disservice to people who were and are victims of actual piracy and cheapens the word.

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[–] xoitus 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Very well said. It seems to be the way we are going as a culture: using strong pejorative terms against people or ideas we don't agree with.

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[–] ChaoticNeutral 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

That's racist or bigoted or sexist or ... something

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[–] TFP191 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

Shut up you conspiracy nut!

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[–] White_Raven 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"I don't like your ideas, therefore: check your [class/race/fillintheblank] privilege and stop oppressing me"

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[–] greycloud 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

i think copyright infringement is morally justifiable, in fact i think it is copyright laws that are NOT morally justifiable.

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[–] Devieus 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

It's plenty justifiable, but not with the direction the Micky Mouse ruling is putting it. But as far as games go, if the devs don't get any cash from it anymore, all bets ought to be off, because then it's just copyright juggling.

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[–] SolarBaby 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Copyright infringement was supposed to make sure that someone else couldn't steal the artwork created by your blood, sweat and tears by calling it their own and profiting from it. Or just plain marketing it on their own without giving the creator a cut.

It has been twisted to mean total dominion over a creation even after a copy has been purchased. They turned it into a thing where you are only licensing a copy instead of owning what you bought. That is all bullshit. Nobody cared when people listened to songs "for free" over the radio. It was called promotion. Nobody cared when they played movies on TV. It was promotion and it was good. Nobody cared when people taped radio songs onto cassettes and passed them around. It was good exposure and promotion.

Media creators should see the benefit in not creating mountains of toxic waste in manufacturing a separate CD/tape/LP for everyone on Earth. They should enjoy the free promotion of people listening to music they like and take advantage by offering premium products for true fans, and filling up concert venues for their live shows.

Again, the real crime here is when people steal profit and credit for someone else's hard work. Someone checking something out or enjoying something without paying anyone for it is something any real artist would feel good about and fine with.

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[–] Vansen 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Ah, someone with a modicum of civility and common sense.

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[–] sozcaps 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Which is rare on Voat? :)

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[–] dontnation 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

For ROMS that are no longer in production or for sale on-line, the money doesn't go to the publishers either.

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[–] supernatendo 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

This is why content creators, programmers, actors, etc... should put a bitcoin QR code next to their name in the credits so we can donate to them if we like their game.

If they die, they could leave the private keys to their bitcoin wallet to their benefactors.

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[–] sec 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

Treat Voat as a bastion of free speech.

Talk about the things you want to talk about. Be constructive. Understand that people will disagree with you, but who gives a shit- they are a stranger on the internet.

Now that is out of the way- What do you wanna talk about regarding piracy?

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[–] Kolopolodolo 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I hope voat stays as a bastion of free speech. Both 4chan and reddit were founded on this principle and look where we are now.

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[–] ABastionOfFreeSpeech 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed, it's why I migrated from Reddit. The public modlogs and free speech make this a great place to be, hopefully Atko can keep it like this.

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[–] HorseIsDead 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What's a good alternative with minimal malware shitposts for when tpb is down? I like that tpb has icons to help identify legitimate torrents, although there was a bitcoin miner attached to a GTA V torrent for a long time uploaded by a "verified" user.

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[–] sec 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

isohunt.to has always been my #1

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[–] spookybm 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

Well, it's not like you can even buy NES cartridges that are functioning now a days that are priced at 1000+ dollars. ROMs for life!

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[–] jaceame 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Judging by the fact there are thousands of games just for the SNES I doubt it is possible to get all of them legally.

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[–] muniea 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

That seems reasonable.... oh wait you said €5 and not €0.50.

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[–] Zquareman 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I like to think that you are paying for them to port it onto that system, not for the game itself.

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[–] GenericFunnyName 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There's a store in my city that sells nes cartridges for $5-$20 depending on the game

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[–] stolencatkarma 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

My feeling is you can pirate any game you previously owned. Or for 24 hours to see if you even like it and runs well on your setup.

I think most reasonable people take that stance.

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[–] Vansen 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Some people I know will pirate the product, either test or watch it if it's say, a film, and then buy it if they liked it.

I understand it for games, because there's not many in the way of demos, and the amount of different combos mean 2 people with virtually identical specs could have vastly different experiences.

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[–] stolencatkarma 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That seems reasonable to me.

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[–] aileron_ron 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

I would never Pirate anything, It's wrong and stealing. With that said, I am beta testing all the software I use.

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[–] 007ace 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I don't think you understand the difference between a beta, and an extended trial with no limitations.

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[–] aileron_ron 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Was only joking.

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[–] Hawk 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

he was joking, and you ruined it with semantics.

Allow me to ruin it even more by mentioning that he may be forgiven in misunderstanding what a beta test is, since newly released games (these days) are more like beta tests you pay for.

RUINED!

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[–] sozcaps 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't see why the mods here would care.

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