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[–] EarlPoncho 0 points 124 points (+124|-0) ago 

“I really believe that commercials and ads make content better,” she said. “The experience on the Web [without ads] becomes a lot less rich in my experience. I personally think it is a mistake.”

hahahaha

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[–] anticlutch 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago  (edited ago)

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Content per ad with ad block is infinity because ads are zero and content is some number greater than zero. I'm unsure she knows how to not talk out of her ass.

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[–] EarlPoncho 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

she's been a monumental failure at yahoo. the only thing saving her is getting lucky with alibaba

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[–] Procinct 13 points 4 points (+17|-13) ago  (edited ago)

I actually agree with this sentiment. If people and companies weren't getting paid for the content that they are putting online then they would have no reason to produce good content. The alternative would be online subscription services with the content behind a paywall. If that were the case, I would probably miss out on a lot of great content that I enjoy now because I don't want to have to pay a subscription service to 20 different websites.

Edit: I should clarify. I only think it makes the content better if the ads are unobtrusive, static and silent. Obviously ads that take up the full screen or start playing a video make the content consuming experience worse.

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[–] curomo 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

That's a good point. I appreciate this well-written comment. I hope you were well paid for your efforts.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

A lot of people believe the Internet got actively worse by a considerable margin when commercial interests started to drown out the volunteers with their content.

While I do not agree with this sentiment 100%, I also think it has a very large amount of validity to it.

And, lest anyone ask "would you contribute content for free?", I suppose the fact that I typed this up should show that yes, I am, and so are you, if you're typing up something to reply to me with. And less trivially on a larger scale, the tens of millions of lines of free software processing the messages going through this web site (which is also free) indicates that I am not alone. In fact some of the largest web sites on the planet essentially have almost all of their content dumped on them by users for free, and said users not only have their content perpetuated, but for their trouble they get to be scanned, analyzed, aggregated, and have their personal information immortalized in countries they've never even heard of and then systematically sold to the highest bidder.

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[–] revdrmlk 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

If people and companies weren't getting paid for the content that they are putting online then they would have no reason to produce good content.

I put content online that I don't get paid for simply because I think it is good content and should be shared for free. And yes I foot the monthly server fees myself.

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[–] chakan2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I really don't understand how a CEO of a .com company can say something that ignorant and keep their job...It's like the CEO of Angel Soft toilet paper saying people would enjoy their product more if they didn't have to shit first.

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[–] NikoMyshkin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

“I really believe that commercials and ads make content better,” she said. “The experience on the Web [without ads] becomes a lot less rich in my experience. I personally think it is a mistake.”

Translation: "The adverts make me tons of money which makes me really happy because money makes me really happy. That's why everyone else should love my ads too."

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

Add no animation or sound. Ever.

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[–] Doomking_Grimlock 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Amen! Back when I used Facebook, I'd always have ads playing somewhere on the screen, and there was no way to shut them up. Finally I just gave up on Facebook. I hated Fuckerburg selling my information anyways.

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[–] skippy_the_kangaroo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And no on screen pop ups

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[–] Totenglocke 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Exactly. I don't give a shit about ads on the side of the page. I use an ad blocker because companies insist on doing stupid shit like ads that cover the entire screen or start blasting music.

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[–] macleod2486 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah I'm sure the thought process was

Hey they're using ad-blocker what should we do? Should we clean up our ads and not make them so obstructive?


Nah they just don't appreciate ads very much. I know we'll take over the entire screen and find the most annoying music possible and blast it. That'll get them to love ads again.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I actually feel bad for the web sites that were actually relatively responsible with this sort of thing, few though they were.

The others, though, got into this position entirely through their own fault. They knew what was wrong with the "ad experience" they were "providing" for over a decade, and did not care one bit about it or the damage they did so long as they got paid.

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[–] bigger_than_you 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

^ This. I resisted installing an ad-blocker for a long time, not because I enjoy advertisements, but because I would actually like to support some of the content creators on the interweb. It was eventually the youtube ads that had me install one. There is absolutely no reason why an advert should be allowed to be twice as loud as the video content you are watching. My ad-blocker is disabled for sites that I want to support, and that are sensible about the way they use adverts. I would prefer not to use one at all but that is solely down to the way advertisers work in the future.

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[–] theoldguy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I also tend to click away from sites that don't show anything unless I tell NoScript to allow it. Which would tend to lead to sites like this, but that's fine with me. When I see all kinds of fancy bullet points and crap, I assume they don't have anything valid to say, and try to cover it up with eye candy.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

That's exactly what Google was thinking for people like you and me.

Google plans to bring a $10 subscription for ad-free videos and music on YouTube by October 22

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[–] l23r 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago 

Yeah... I'll just keep on using Ad Block, thanks.

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[–] Totenglocke 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

$10 a year, maybe. $10 a month? Fuck that.

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[–] theburntsausage 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep, i refuse to watch ads. Ill let the other sheep do it for me.

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[–] thrus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Let me ask this question is the content on a site worth the subscriptions? Unless you know what the content is you can't answer that. This will become the catch for subscription only options for sites.

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[–] WolfShade_ 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

"A mistake not only because people will miss out on seeing great ads..."

The only "great" ad is the one never seen so it doesn't choke bandwidth.

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[–] Procinct 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

If Voat had unobtrusive ads, would you unblock them purely to support Voat? Or say any other website that you enjoy?

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[–] BeautifulInside 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

If I want to support a site that bad I'll donate money myself, or buy their products.

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[–] FeelinFroggy 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago  (edited ago)

No, I'd continue blocking the ads. Blocked reddit for a long, long time, I'd block Voat too.

I hope Voat changes over to a paid-subscription model before too long.

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[–] anticlutch 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Not going to read the article because I only care so much as the title. In that I agree in the direction of small ads relegated to the side of the site, in frames loaded last. Zero sounds, zero gifs, zero videos, zero interaction. Also. Never, never ever make an ad load in a frame immediately after where most people click when the site loads so when they go to click it clicks the ad instead of the text entry area.

Themed ads. Make them design ads based on your color scheme so they aren't goddamned headaches. I've unblocked ads on 2 websites ever. Torrentfreak and 8ch.

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[–] WolfShade_ 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Never, never ever make an ad load in a frame immediately after where most people click when the site loads so when they go to click it clicks the ad instead of the text entry area.

Hear, hear!! I hate that!

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[–] thrus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You forgot that if your site hosts files the idea of Download should not even be referenced in the ads. I hate ads that look like a download button on sites that host files.

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[–] anticlutch 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes. This. Though that's not something usually seen on places like yahoo. It's "illegal" downloads that do that.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I remember an Internet before ads. When nerds created content and hosted sites because they wanted to, oftentimes paying out of pocket to run BBSes, host servers, or pay someone to host their website for them. The Internet was pretty awesome then, even without Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer pretending that the Internet could be improved with ads. It wasn't some dark age where everyone was just waiting for a miraculous cure to make the Internet worth participating in. It was already great.

Spam, popups, and ads began because companies were greedy. There was a cheap and easy way to make more, and they've been greedily sucking at that teat for years. If every marketing manager suddenly dropped dead tomorrow, a few companies would fold, clickbait and spam blogs would go dark, and the real Internet users would continue on just fine, donating and paying out of pocket for the shit they actually care about.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Funny, but I've never bought anything because of seeing an Ad.

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[–] dabork 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

That you know of. (Good) advertising works on a deep and subconscious level. You might not have ever purposely went out and bought something specifically because you just saw it in an ad, but I'll bet you've picked a brand or variety of product based on something you saw even if you weren't aware of it. Even simple tricks like making a stupid commercial that leaves a lasting impression so that the brand name stays in your mind work on most people.

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[–] newoldwave 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Is that how they got people to vote for Obama?

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