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[–] MrNatural 7 points 86 points (+93|-7) ago 

Except there is the ability to choose from plenty of other Linuxes without Ubuntu's issues. Windows, you apparently have to go back in time to Vista or XP.

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[–] motoguy 0 points 55 points (+55|-0) ago 

Its not even that. You can easily turn off features in Ubuntu if you don't like them, including the sending of information. At work, we run heavily modified versions of Ubuntu as it is.

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[–] White_Raven 1 points 30 points (+31|-1) ago 

Are distros like Mint affected by this?

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[–] CathyTheGreatsHorse 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And even easier than turning things off, is to install a different distro.

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[–] siglamide 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I'm going to guess that sealing up Windows 10 requires less expertise than making all the necessary changes to Ubuntu.

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[–] 0x5f3759df 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

This is the point, indeed. The issue is not Windows vs Ubuntu, it Microsoft/Canonical etc. vs Linux.

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[–] TheMute 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's unfortunate that this is the case with, in terms of popularity, such a large distro. Other distros like Elementary OS are built on Ubuntu. Apparently they're not affected like this, which is a relief. (This problem is Unity-specific)

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[–] 2cents 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

gulp "H-hey, V-v-vista.........so, w-what's up?"

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[–] Upvoats_McGoats 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

FEED ME RAM!!! ARRRGGGHHH!!!

[BLUE SCREEN]

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[–] sozcaps 3 points 31 points (+34|-3) ago 

A bit sensationalist, but I guess the Win10 articles can be as well. Anyway, there are other distros. Nobody's pushing anyone into using this particular version of Ubuntu, or using Ubuntu at all. It will branch like this OS has done so many times before, and we will have an Ubuntu that does not gather anything. Personally I have the hots for Ubuntu 10, (beware the shitty music) so I'll stick with Ubuntu 10.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but supposedly Linux itself is a firewall . You don't have to frantically use whatever's newest, you don't have to shit yourself in fear over security patches that you don't trust anyway.

You could also just -gasp- spend 10 seconds disabling Ubuntu's "built-in snitch".

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[–] the_spectre 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Or just use a non-Unity DE like KDE, XFCE, LXDE...

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[–] sozcaps 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

As soon as I figure out how to get rid of EUFI, I will. I'm still stuck just booting Puppy from USBs, sadly. On my next machine I might drop dualboot altogether, I dunno.

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[–] 2cents 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I love the window animations in the video, can you get those with 15.04?

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[–] Foobarbaz 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

You don't have to frantically use whatever's newest

You don't have to use Windows 10 either but morons upgraded to it expecting some perfect OS. Pretty much anyone using a computer more than a few years should know: New = cool but unstable / issues.

So many forgot "fisher price XP" and how they'd NEVER leave 2k/98. Already people are compelled to migrated from 7 -> 10 for no real reason other than they can -- which should tell us a lot about their lack of impulse control.

Those same people would fuck over their Linux distro's as well in the blink of an eye for pretty little icons.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I went over there before my first install, saw someone ask a question about what distro to pick, saw a bunch of different distros get suggested with a lot of details about the differences in desktop environments. I saw a bunch of Ubuntu distros, Mint, Cent, Arch, Red Hat, et cetera being suggested with pros and cons given. I did not see some great holy war. WTF are you on about?

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[–] weezkitty 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I never recommend straight Ubuntu anymore. It has gone astray

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[–] AssaultMonkey 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I have never seen this. I think you should calm down.

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[–] sozcaps 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

In this thread I said nobody's pushing people to use Linux. Or Ubuntu. Or a particular version of Ubuntu. We are being pushed to use and upgrade our Windows, under threat of hacker attack and whatnot. That was the context.

I also said that the shopping ad "snitch" is easily disabled. I don't know what you mean by 'attacks of all manner'. I also don't see what <random subreddit> has to do with anything.

Edit: So you're from /v/niggers - got kicked out of Reddit and you're here telling me about brigading and obnoxious elist assholes. Dude.

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[–] Kaukamieli 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Umm, no? In Windows the scary part is what they are doing with it right now.

Czech made analysis of Windows 10 data sending: http://aeronet.cz/news/analyza-windows-10-ve-svem-principu-jde-o-pouhy-terminal-na-sber-informaci-o-uzivateli-jeho-prstech-ocich-a-hlasu/

Key points pointed out in these threads: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/49629834 & https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/49624517

-It sends all text you type anywhere (not just into search) every 30 minutes to MS. If you type about a holiday to your blog, next day youll see holiday ads.

-every 30 minutes it sends your geolocation and network info

-if you type a telephone number into Edge it sends it to MS after 5 min

-if you type anywhere in windows a name of some movie, windows will start indexing all your media files after a while and will send it to MS after 30 minutes of your inactivity

-after installing W10, it will send about 35MB of data once

-after turning on your webcam for the first time it sends data to microsoft once. Probably your photo.

-everything you say is transferred to MS, it works even if you disable and remove and uninstall cortana. Parts of Cortana are needed for the core of the OS to run. Confirmed by MS helpdesk. You can be identified by your voice anywhere near a microphone after they get enough data from you.

-Voice to text is transferred instantly

-voice is transferred every 15 min, 80MB of data

-after 15 minutes of your inactivity or when screensaver is on, network activity ramps up and everything else is being sent to MS

-blocking in hosts doesn't work, IPs are hardcoded into their code and DLLs

Lots of that is confirmed by other sources. http://blog.robseder.com/2015/08/16/whats-the-real-deal-with-windows-10-and-privacy/

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[–] HelloBuddy1234 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't know about other aspects, but I do not like how Ubuntu searches for items on the internet when I search for apps using the start menu, which seems exactly like one of the complaints about Windows 10.

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[–] weezkitty 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Credit card info? Shit. I can't believe Ubuntu has gotten to that point. Obviously I haven't used it for a while. It's been going to crap for several years now

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[–] xxxxxxx 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

If you want to buy an app in the software center, then yes, they need your credit card number. Shocking!

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[–] SpaceLizard 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

There's more to it than that. Ubuntu is open source so anyone can audit the code to verify that the privacy setting do what they say they do.

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[–] Balrogic 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

And Linux makes for a good build environment, so I can download programs I want as source code, audit that and compile it myself without having to jump through a million tricky MS hoops to make it actually work. I can change absolutely anything I dislike. I won't risk prison time for changing things, either. It's great.

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[–] lbruiser 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The big difference is you can turn off the lens amazon search thing and IT STOPS WORKING! Unlike Windows10 where it still calls out even when the feature is turned off.

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[–] shovelcock 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

I wonder what other distributions have data collection issues

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[–] mamwad 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The thing about open source is that you don't have to wonder.

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[–] Broc_Lia 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Have they gotten to my Windows 93?

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[–] SpaceLizard 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Why wouldn't it be safe?

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[–] sprdpr 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

dammit. i just downloaded and burnt a dvd for ubuntu. what's the real recommended linux to use.

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[–] CaptSpify 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

You can disable this in ubuntu. Your time was not wasted

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[–] Kaukamieli 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Though it's nice not having to. I prefer Mint myself.

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[–] CathyTheGreatsHorse 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Mint is great. But go ahead and try Ubuntu while you have the disc. If you like Unity, then go to fix Ubuntu and follow the directions. If you don't like Unity, go get Mint.

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[–] mamwad 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Honestly, Ubuntu is a good distribution, though I've migrated to OpenSUSE and Fedora. fixubuntu.com sites you just how easy it is to disable the adware.

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[–] Wasq 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Free Linux foundation has a list of honest Linux distributions.

Your time was wasted. Do not support a dishonest company. For every user "in the know", there are probably ten thousand that are having their key strokes sent to some advertiser.

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[–] Vercingetorix 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Comparing the two is laughable. Ubuntu's ENTIRE "privacy issue" consisted of sending Unity search terms to Amazon. That's it. Trying to compare that to Microsoft's illegal hoovering of every file on your disk is like comparing a slingshot to the Falcon 9.

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