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[–] tribblepuncher 10 points 73 points (+83|-10) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, problem with all of this is that Windows has the vast majority of end-user desktop software. While some software such as Wine and Codeweaver's stuff manages to help a great deal, "help a great deal" is a far cry from "run perfectly." Although virtualization is an option, most high-performance tasks are going to take a hit - possibly a massive one - due to the fact that virtualization adds another layer to everything, which is especially nasty when you need high-performance parts such as a GPU to work well.

Simple fact of the matter is - and people who are busy screaming about how great Windows 10 is and how all its critics should shut the fuck up try to pretend not to hear this - Linux is hard-pressed to replace Windows, for the simple fact that the monopolistic position has let the DOS/Windows ecosystem entrench itself for 30 years, and it is extremely difficult to get out of it. That said, there may be considerably worse problems for "going Linux" considering what's going on with UEFI, and I seriously speculate that things are only going to get worse on that count.

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[–] Crazyjoe33 0 points 46 points (+46|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think this comment was the push I needed to change my OS. I think it's finally time to make it happen.

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[–] Astrojardin 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

--Dr Suess, The Lorax

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[–] 9-11 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

many of the 'curious' could just look around the house for a spare usb stick, and use something like pendrive linux, go download mint. now you have a linux computer with a persistent harddrive that can do just about everything you want it to out of the box (usb slot), just hit F11 at boot

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[–] trolleyfan 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

"If people don't start taking a leap of faith and accepting the shortcomings in order to enjoy the benefits (which are greater in number), then it will always be this way."

Then it will always be this way.

The problem is, if you're a business, those "shortcomings" often boil down to "now my business software doesn't work" or "I had to double the size of IT to get everything to work the same." And if you're a school, those shortcomings boil down to "businesses don't use Linux, so why would we teach students that when they can't get a job with it?"

And - right there - you've got 70-80% of the PC market locked up, pretty much permanently.

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[–] RandomNumberGod 2 points 43 points (+45|-2) ago 

I'm willing to bet that the overwleming majority of users could easily transition to a Linux-based OS with minimal fuss. The only people who are stuck on Windows are gamers (rapidly changing) and people who use niche software.

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[–] Coltoh 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Ironically, "gamers" are probably the largest computer using demographic who are pushing for Linux adoption.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The answer to that is "it depends." And it can very strongly depend.

There are a LOT of people who have businesses with software that will only work with Windows. There are a fair few that still have software designed specifically to play with IE6 and only IE6. Microsoft caters to these users pretty well, at least insofar as it can. Too much money to be made. While companies drag their heels at updates in many cases, due to the cost and patching their custom software, they're still an important part of Microsoft's revenue. I would expect that they will do quite a bit to try to play nice with them for some time to come. People in this position are not going to be able to transition away so easily, even where there is a Linux equivalent - for instance, LibreOffice does not play well with some of the more advanced capabilities in Word documents. While LibreOffice continues to improve, there are still differences that are quite visible if you work with the documents, and these vary from annoying (and making the document look unprofessional) to document-breaking (crash or useless glop). Plus there is also the fact that many businesses make a lot of use of software developed not just for Windows, but for Office. Transitioning away from this is non-trivial.

The home market may be more friendly to this, but that would require the user to learn how to use two separate computer systems, which many balk at if they can avoid it. They adapted to cell phones and tablets, but those are rather different animals and allowed some things to be done that most PC-based systems just don't do. Plus, software incompatibility when trying to do work from home and other factors.

Unfortunately the Year Of The Linux Desktop has been every year since the late 1990s. Don't get me wrong, I've used Linux plenty, ranging from the standard desktop to the shell prompt, and I'd love to see it as a standard OS, but I don't see it happening any time in the near future, and there are only so many people who are going to sacrifice functionality for ideology.

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[–] trolleyfan 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

"and people who use niche software"

You mean like most businesses, schools and all of government?

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[–] altered 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Exactly. Just use Windows 7. If enough people reject Win 10, Microsoft will be forced to change their asshole ways.

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[–] noep 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That may be a temporary solution but support for 7 and 8 will eventually stop. Microsoft has also added telemetry to 8 and, if they haven't already, I'm sure 7 will be next. Something truly drastic would have to happen to knock Microsoft off their pedestal, or even get them to backtrack at this point.

There just aren't enough people who are even aware of what is going on, let alone care enough about it to switch to Linux. All this information gathering is far too under the hood and out of sight.

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[–] stesch 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just use Windows 7.

Windows 8/8.1 and 7 received the same diagnostic telemetry as Windows 10: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708

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[–] RandomNumberGod 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If you install every optional package from Windows Update, then Windows 7 is also spying on you.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Vendor lock-in with some IDEs and Adobe does not equal Windows superiority. That vendor lock-in is an increasingly big problem as people wish to abandon Windows but feel trapped by mere vendor lock-in. Businesses already engage in heavy investment toward Linux development. The more pressure to switch, the more people are going to start creating solutions to the Windows problem.