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[–] voiceofflawedlogic 0 points 102 points (+102|-0) ago 

I'll switch to linux once Win 7 is obsolete, not that they'll notice any lost revenue whatsoever from me.

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[–] noblefool 1 point 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

Dunno about @voiceofflawedlogic but I'm still holding out for reactOS.

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[–] voiceofflawedlogic 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm already comfortable with it. I've been using several flavors of linux for 7 or 8 years now. My only reason for not using it on my main PC in the past has been support for netflix and a few of my favorite games, but it seems Mint and Chrome take care of the Netflix problem. Might have to create a new boot partition and see how it goes for a while.

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[–] G33K5QU4D 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I actually just got Mint up and running dual boot with WIn10 on my laptop. Seems really cool so far.

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[–] Gawbles 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

So, you're saying to "switch now"...then by the time you make the "move" you'll be more comfortable? I think you need to rethink the way you word your sentences.

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[–] fairdreamer 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Microsoft sees the future as an internet of things, but unfortunately we are turning into a police state with domestic surveillance and can't have nice things.

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[–] Feltz 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

May as well do it now, they are already pushing updates to all versions of windows to receive diagnostic and telemetry tracking among other things windows 10 has. I had auto updates turned off for over a year and it just magically turned itself back on and updated when shutting down the other night. Screw em.

see here:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708

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[–] Square-Shaped-Cloud 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

So if your computer somehow already got this update without approval, is there any way to get rid of it?

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[–] voiceofflawedlogic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Sorry to bug you (not really). I've used linux before, and I know that Windows 7 doesn't expire and stop working at a specific date. Shit, I was using XP Pro up until 2013.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yes, and I can also use tin cans to talk instead of a phone.

Somehow, though, I just don't think that's going to work out too well.

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[–] sun_butt 3 points 83 points (+86|-3) ago 

I did deal with it, I installed linux

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[–] Anther 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Me too. Sod off MS.

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[–] guppy-warrior ago 

Might get a cheap laptop and play around with Linux before I make the leap on my main PC.

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[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 3 points 65 points (+68|-3) ago 

And yet again, Microsoft proves themselves to not understand the classic Bible quote: Pride comes before a fall. You know, I thought they'd gotten the message with Windows 8, but nooo, they apparently didn't. Fucking morons, they deserve to go out of business now. But of course they won't.

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[–] PM-me-about-Autism 1 point 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

People have had thousands of years to learn the smart part of the bible. This ain't changing any time soon.

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[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I pretty much studied every religion out there. These books are old and as such, they do contain some pretty good ideas among all the shit they add. But, history and learning and repeating. It's kind of tiring to see it happen over and over.

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[–] blackblarneystone 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

i think maybe they are telling consumers to deal with it because somebody else told them to deal with it...

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[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

That's definitely a possibility, an unlikely one, but still, it could have happened. In this case though, I just think Microsoft has finally gone beyond the corporate event horizon of viability. Now all that remains is a slow decline into death.

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[–] reed ago 

Windows is not the totality of their business. They make more money off office, for example.

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[–] stacylgage 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

Just wait, as soon as they lose business from businesses they will change.

Or their company might just fail, one or the other

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[–] SkyWest1218 1 point 27 points (+28|-1) ago 

It doesn't take much to change that though. If you piss a business off enough, they look for alternatives. If they find none, they make one themselves. Microsoft should tread carefully.

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[–] stacylgage 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

If it messes with the servers in businesses, then yea, people will start to remove them. Plus if you're a financial business, they have access to all your clients data, so that's a huge security flaw

I don't think people will stand for it

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[–] 1822905? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That could have been said about IBM quite some time ago.

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Nothing is too big to fail if the FUBAR is big enough

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[–] stacylgage 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Who says they would switch to linux? They still have coverage for 7 for awhile

The refusal to move to 10 would either amount to change, or, if they don't change, would probably amount to people start the training now in other OS to provide semi competent people by the time 7 no longer is supported. Or they might make a 10 without the security holes (via cortana and ads and such) for businesses

Besides, isn't this the same shit they had with 7? Win7 had all the failures of vista (like waiting 5 mins for a usb mouse driver to be installed) and they made a few patches, and a lot of the vista fails disappeared and businesses started to buy it up.

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[–] roznak ago 

What makes you think they will lose business from the corporations?

  • One huge security hole when Microsoft on purpose build spying tolls in the very OS itself.
  • Microsoft message: We are going to suck your drives and network drives to sell your information to anyone that is willing to pay.

They will hold onto Windows 7 as long as they can and slowly create a path to an different OS.

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[–] Hand-Banana 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Businesses used Novell... remember that? When it gets really bad and there is a viable alternative then they'll switch. Linux isn't our savior either; systemD, unity, new gnome, etc.

And yea, you can get mint but I can use server2k3, 7, xp, xp64 and hack installers/services/etc. The real meaning of this is: power users now have to hack their OS into what they want. 7 had privacy leaking things too, so did XP, just now there are more and they're harder to turn off.

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[–] I_check_passwords ago 

They won't. Windows Enterprise N is what businesses will get. You can actually block data collection, no cortana and it doesn't come with Microsoft apps on it either.

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[–] Ruab 4 points 25 points (+29|-4) ago 

Yea, fuck this shit. Switching to Linux.

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[–] Vandervorst 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

I did the same, and have not regretted it. If you are looking for a recommendation(me having tried a lot of distributions) I'd say Linux Mint(with the MATE desktop).

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[–] Ruab 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Thanks for the info, I'll check it out!

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[–] Zbruh 1 point 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

To the Linux-mobile!

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[–] Disappointed 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

The thing is there are a lot of people around who just don't care about privacy. They buy into the idea that they don't do anything wrong therefore they have nothing to worry about. The big issue here is that Microsoft has a few hooks that privacy concious users can't do without. Gaming for instance.

Luckily you can still use Windows 10 and not give up your privacy. You just have to be willing to compromise on some things like dual boot and the inconvenience of not having an all in one OS.

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[–] tribblepuncher 1 point 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

dual boot

I wouldn't bet on that continuing to work forever, thanks to UEFI. Considering Windows tablet manufacturers are already told explicitly to leave it impossible to disable UEFI on tablets, and with Windows 10 they don't have to make it optional to comply with the specifications, I imagine that soon enough booting a non-signed OS will be something you can only do on premium hardware - increasingly premium as time goes by.

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[–] ninjai 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Oh god. "Unlock overclocking for 9.99!"

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[–] TheTrigger 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

If you're buying a prebuilt computer and not checking to see if it's capable of dual-boot before dropping your hard-earned money on it, you deserve to get duped. Seriously, you don't even have to be that tech savvy. 9.5/10 someone's already asked the exact same question, and have had it answered twenty different ways.

And if not, you just gotta know where to ask and someone will let you know. There's literally thousands of linux forums and wikis to help you pick out what hardware will best run everything you need. All you need to do is not want Windows. Companies selling pre-built PCs have always been proprietary, locked down, and nerfed. For example: you'll never overclock any computer that you haven't built from scratch (or is specifically labeled as such, e.x: gaming desktops), they've just removed that part of the BIOS altogether.

tl;dr: you get what you pay for. It's always been that way.

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[–] e0steven 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Calm your tits. If you took 0.25 seconds to google it (ha funny), you'd see that the Linux foundation already has signing rights and will distribute a bootstrappable signed loader so you can load whatever Linux distro you want. Source

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[–] mukt 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If you remove gaming, is there anything that Linux distros of today can't do?

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[–] Disappointed 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Not that I need no. I'm sure professionals will find a piece of software they cant go without, but I haven't found anything yet.

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[–] KleanRider 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

In defense of Microsoft... Google and Apple have the voice controlled thing going on, Microsoft can't just sit by and not keep up with that technology. People need to realize that in order for all that voice controlled stuff to work they need a huge database and processing power to make it work so with current technology Google, Apple and now Microsoft have to send your private information to their servers. It kinda sucks that Microsoft is getting burned for being upfront about it, it probably won't encourage other companies to be as forthcoming.

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[–] KleanRider 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Interesting note is that my friend said to Siri "Call my Girlfriend" and Siri asked "is Katie your girlfriend" and he said yes and she dialed his girlfriend. All that processing doesn't happen on the phone.

Weather or not Apple handles the privacy better in the end to use the voice recognition function on any OS alot of information has to be sent to a server.

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[–] TheBuddha 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If you do not know if Android or Windows can do it then how do you know they are worse?

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[–] BlackLabel ago 

Android is the same in this aspect, at least every time I install an App it tells me which permissions the program asks for and if I do authorize it to access them.

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[–] roznak ago 

That voiced control is a toying thing, not enterprise stuff. Surely not when it gives access to every part of your data creating one huge security hole.

There is no requirement to do the same things as the other do. That makes them just like the others.

Microsoft could have profiled themselves, as: We take privacy and security seriously, that is why designed it straight into the very OS

Not what they now did: We fucked up the privacy and security in this OS, but you get this cool talking computer back.

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