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[–] NeonMan 1 points 66 points (+67|-1) ago  (edited ago)

If the network can survive day 1 of every month, when everyone is killing their data cravings, of course the nework can take it.

I'd rather have a 10Mbit unmmettered than 1000Mbit with caps.

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[–] Vloorshad 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'd rather have a 10Mbit unmmettered than 1000Mbit with caps.

This right here. I only care about stupidly fast speeds when Steam's idling away downloading something. With 3D and 4K streaming coming we'll likely need more than 10Mb, but the average* user could probably get by on a rock steady 10Mb/10Mb connection without noticing a thing (Is that enough for 1080p?). Case in point, I'm on a pitiful 1.5/.75 connection and I can stream (480p will work with no buffering most of the time) and play anything I want. One or two items at a time, true, but it's doable.

*Please note that I'm painfully aware that if you're torrenting things (legal or otherwise) or hosting your own file server then 10Mb is nothing.

Edit: Details and a question. And 3 letters.

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[–] ialreadyhaveaccount 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

What you say may be true, but 1000 mbit unlimited is fucking awesome. GOOGLE FIBER FOR LIFE...errr, till I move away.

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[–] NeonMan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

DVB can do HD with less than 10Mb bandwidth and baseline codecs. 4K, with no other tech involved, would need arround four times that at most.

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[–] 1rash 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

With 3D and 4K streaming coming we'll likely need more than 10Mb

I'm totally fine with buffering wait. Please don't bring data caps under any circumstance. Right now, I pay ~35$ for a 1Mb bandwidth. I probably pay way more than those who opt in with much higher speeds with data caps.

Data cap is shit. Fuck whoever invented it.

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[–] Buttershine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ever since I got fiber reading this sort of thing makes me shudder. We need fiber everywhere. Not settling for fucking 90s copper wire.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Good point, and I'm in the same camp. I care more about unlimited internet than speed. Unfortunately we're losing options for either.

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[–] NeonMan 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Bandwidth is essentially a data cap, only it is more benefitial to the end user than profitable to the carrier.

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[–] green_man 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I would rather have a 3.24 TB cap with 1000 Mbit than 10 Mbit unmetered.

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[–] NeonMan 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It is essentially the same ;)

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[–] ssmy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is why I have business class. More expensive, but uncapped 50/10. And I've averaged ~1 terabyte a month for several years. Better customer service too. Not cheap though.

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[–] Leinhart 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

Great read. Clearly they want to eliminate any sort of competition and pad their own pockets in the process. Netflix / Steam / Google (youtube)/ et. al really ought to team up and file a fucking class action on these thieves.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Big ISPs have gotten much more brazen in the last decade, and they've only consolidated their market control. Something is going to give, and I really hope it results in the consumer protections we so sorely need in this industry.

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[–] Leinhart 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Tom Wheeler is really showing some promise. I hope that the FCC's probe in data caps prove fruitful for the consumers.

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[–] anticlutch 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Until we get a class action against these companies which consists of millions of Americans against them, they will win.

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

The insanity is that I have unlimited on my phone but my home internet is capped at 300GB... wtf?

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[–] Leinhart 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

been dealing with it over a year now. Had to go back to buying physical copies of PC games.

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[–] DrTooth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

...where can you even get physical copies?

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I actually like physical copies if I can get them

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[–] kontroll 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Can't you tether your phone and offload a bit of the downloads to your unmetered phone network?

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My tether is actually limited to 5GB, plus I have an always-on home server.

However I have been thinking of adding an extra phone line. First I have to make sure this works, but apparently there's a tether app made by clockworkmod that allows you to USB tether your phone's connection but mask it as mobile traffic. So if this works, I could plug my spare phone into the server and then share the internet connection with the rest of my network. If that works then maybe I can ditch comcast for good. Oh man, I got chills just typing that out.

Also, I'm already trying to use my phone as much as possible. And media like movies or TV shows I try to download from my LTE connection. It helps, but I need a more ubiquitous solution, like the extra phone.

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[–] nonoyesyes 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I have unlimited 4G Verizon. When I moved across the country a few years ago instead of ordering Comcast I just tethered my cell phones data plan into a wireless router. It worked surprisingly well - HD Netflix and all that was fine, even gaming was ok (there was some lag added but not bad at all). I've since moved on to a "real" Internet connection but it did work pretty well.

For anyone wondering: You can USB/wifi tether your cellphone to a PC. Bridge that connection with the Ethernet port on the PC and send that into the WAN on your router (This will probably need a cross over cable). If you do WiFi tether to the PC you can actually setup an NFC tag by your door that when you swipe your phone it will turn the AP on (feed Internet to your home router) and if you swipe it again on the way out it will turn the AP off (and not waste your battery when you aren't home).

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[–] 654456 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Time to drop that home connection and just use your phone.

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[–] GDHPNS 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

For the past three days my Comcast account refuses to show me how much I've downloaded. This happens all of the time and I've already surpassed my 300GB limit three times which means now they'll charge me $10 for each 50GB I go over the cap. http://imgur.com/rG6tMl8

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I feel for you. I get 40GB a month and charged $12 for each GB over. The problem is that these monopolies control a utility that's regulated like a luxury, and without the necessary competition to keep prices down.

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[–] libroj 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

wtf, that is crazy. who's your isp? having never had a datacap myself... i don't understand how you do it

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[–] EatDik 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

which means now they'll charge me $10 for each 50GB I go over the cap

OH THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE

...seriously though, I can't believe US has these problems. I live in Eastern Europe and in my country there was only one company that had datacaps and that was over 10 years ago. Their datacaps made no sense, as 128kbps connection had the same cap as 1Mbit connection (which was 5GB at the time I think?). They kept raising the caps but eventually had to completely resign from them since all the smaller, local ISPs had no caps and offered a better quality of connection that they did (while keeping the price mostly the same).

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[–] DJexs 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Comcast spends a lot of money to get laws passed in their favor and exploit loopholes. Not to mention before Comcast the politicians where kind enough to remove the protections this country had from corporations and make it so corporations have the same rights as human beings. Now we are circling the drain.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

In Canada, it's worse.

What makes this sad is that a few countries like Romania and Estonia far outpace internet service in much wealthier countries, including the US and other European countries.

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[–] revofire 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You've gone over the limit so it's impossible to load the website to check or pay bills now. :D

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[–] GDHPNS 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

haha, it turns out it's broken on their end too, I called and they'll call me back when it's fixed.

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[–] realpatrickstewart 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You can measure bandwidth with software on your computer or on many routers.

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[–] GDHPNS 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's more of a verification type of deal.

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[–] BetterDeadThanRed 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

I don't understand why you Americans are putting up with it. Here in Europe I have 1 Gbit/s and no cap. I can download terrabytes and my ISP doesn't give a fuck. I even have two ISPs that both offer 10 Gbit/s for those who are willing to pay for it.

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[–] Atsu333 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Tell me, oh great one, what can I do to get better internet?

Because the only thing my friends and I can come up with is to start our own ISP, which will be very pricey.

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[–] ogcook 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

If regulations don't prevent you from even being able to if you wanted to.

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[–] Pawn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

move to another country that actually appreciates having internet.

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[–] realpatrickstewart 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Because the only thing my friends and I can come up with is to start our own ISP, which will be very pricey.

Even worse than that since ISP's sue startups over frivilous charges like "tampering with our lines" to bleed their capital.

http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/04/one-big-reason-we-lack-internet-competition-starting-an-isp-is-really-hard/

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[–] thrus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Unfortunately the only other options for many are to step down to a much slower and lower data cap or not have internet. I know every time i have checked my usage with Comcast it has said the cap is suspended. currently I am at 164GB of 250GB with cap suspended.

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[–] LewsTherinTelamon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] BetterDeadThanRed 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That's so weird. What about 4G? My phone operator allows me 500 GB cap on data through their 4G network.

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[–] BetterDeadThanRed 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Data caps are unusual in Europe. I think you're thinking of Australia and New Zealand.

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[–] 1rash 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't think even my ISP has a 1Gb bandwidth.

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[–] onelovedg 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Can I get a "FUCK COMCAST!"??

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] SuperCarGuy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I signed up for Cox, as they are the only people around here.

This post just made me check my account, and they lied to me. It's a 2tb cap, not 5tb. Sigh.

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[–] SgtSama 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And Cox is still better than a lot of other options. I"m on centurylink, and I've got packet loss every few seconds (causing my online games to stutter/freeze), horribly inconsistent download/upload speeds, and ping ranging from 50 to 1000. not to mention the speeds themselves being garbage.

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[–] Calza 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I know fuck all about Comcast, but from all the shit I hear... Thank fuck I'm English

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[–] hyperoperation 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The US needs to get its act together with internet speeds, it is getting fucking embarrassing. Especially now that people are being encouraged to migrate to the cloud.

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