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[–] supertinkers 0 points 51 points (+51|-0) ago 

its even in the app store in windows 10....

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[–] JimmyJimRyan 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Download it from the site. Avoid the app store or soon it will be the only way most people download software.

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[–] Tb0n3 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, which you pay for. And just links you to the download from vlc's website.

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[–] escape 6 points 27 points (+33|-6) ago 

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[–] kick_his_ass_sebas 13 points 0 points (+13|-13) ago 

/bread

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[–] Rohity 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

VLC is best no need to waste money.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 5 points 154 points (+159|-5) ago 

There are plenty of free DVD players for Windows. The whole reason they removed it and are charging for it is because they have to license the technology and have to pay for it and they know few people even use it.

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[–] kuuttis 28 points 85 points (+113|-28) ago 

But that is too rational. We must circlejerk on the Win10 hate bandwagon!

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[–] Proppa 6 points 17 points (+23|-6) ago  (edited ago)

I heard Microsoft employed Satan himself to write the kernel.

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[–] blackblarneystone 4 points 6 points (+10|-4) ago 

its dumb to charge fifteen bucks on principle. i'll circle jerk on that anytime

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[–] weezkitty 6 points 21 points (+27|-6) ago 

$15 is disproportional though. Thank goodness for VLC

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[–] SecureRhino 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

According to wikipedia a physical DVD player requires about US$15–$20 per player in license fees for patents, the MPEG-2 codec and Dolby Digital.

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[–] Oldfrith 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Actually, VLC plays DVD's illegally. It's just that the DRM encryption is so weak that it's trivial to brute force.

Source

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[–] Foobarbaz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank goodness for VLC

Which can't play my latest season of Archer, by the way.

I'm OK paying $15 if it means they update the codecs so I never have to give a fuck again. Beats having to plug it in to a DVD player to play the damn thing and it beats having to install the CrapWare that came with the machine.

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[–] Kuecofin 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Exactly this. The outrage should be directed at MPEG LA and Dolby Laboratories, Inc. who use software patents and the DMCA to force all commercial software to license their codecs.

There's a few good writeups about this: http://www.zdnet.com/article/if-vlc-can-ship-a-free-dvd-player-why-cant-microsoft/

That said, what microsoft is charging is probably too much: http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-much-do-dvd-and-digital-media-playback-features-really-cost/

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[–] Strader 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Microsoft are pretty evil when it comes to most things, but they are fairly honest about it at least... unlike certain other major software providers...

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[–] Galaxy3 5 points 65 points (+70|-5) ago  (edited ago)

First: who didn't see this coming? It was obvious this was Microsoft's game plan as soon as they announced Windows 10 would be a free upgrade.

Second: Who uses Microsoft's DVD player anyway? I assume Windows 10 doesn't block 3rd party programs like VLC and MPC from playing DVDs. This is basically a tax on grandma and other amateurs that will assume Microsoft's official app is a requirement to play DVDs.

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[–] foshizzle 6 points 66 points (+72|-6) ago 

Third, who uses DVDs?

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[–] White_Raven 2 points 37 points (+39|-2) ago 

Weren't you paying attention? Grandma does.

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[–] blackhawks-fan 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

Hey you snotty little whippersnapper, I still use DVDs. Seriously I still buy DVDs and CDs. All of my CDs are ripped as soon as they arrive but I don't rip my DVDs.

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[–] SkyWest1218 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

(raises hand slowly)

Say what you want about the medium, it's still a sound format.

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[–] mamwad 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Linux users who don't pirate. Anyway, I'm sure playing Blu-Rays will cost you money on Windows 10, too.

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[–] Beers 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

Yeah, its cool as long as the only people they take advantage of are old and uninformed.

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[–] Wolfeh2015 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Speaking of MPC, check out Smooth Video Project.

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[–] Gamiac 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I assume Windows 10 doesn't block 3rd party programs like VLC and MPC from playing DVDs.

Yet.

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[–] ah 1 points 50 points (+51|-1) ago 

Just download a different program, it doesn't really seem like robbery. More like a highway fruit stand.

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[–] 12ab12cd 2 points 17 points (+19|-2) ago  (edited ago)

70 year old computer illiterate grandma

introduce her to linux

cant stop laughing

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[–] shepd 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If she doesn't have $15 to burn to watch the DVDs, how did she buy them? The majority of that $15 isn't even going in Microsoft's pocket, it's going in the pocket of the shitty companies who still require royalties for the privilege of letting you play a DVD and without those "grease" payments a large company like Microsoft would be in deep shit.

You know, for that matter, if $15 is a huge hardship, how does she afford to power the PC?

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[–] brother_tempus 13 points 33 points (+46|-13) ago 

Another reason why i use Linux

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[–] G4 6 points 51 points (+57|-6) ago 

Because you'd have to use a third party video application?

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[–] brother_tempus 5 points 17 points (+22|-5) ago 

Among a plethora of other reasons ... which is why i stated just another reason

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[–] RunsWithScissors 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Because you aren't being nickled and dimed.

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[–] kick_his_ass_sebas 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

Ahh Linux, it's like the gf I keep getting back with and then break up with when I all she wants to do is stay in the house.

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[–] Speculater 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

I think you had a stroke there at the end?

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[–] Adrinus 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Sounds like an epic girlfriend... Dunno why you keep breaking up...

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[–] namealreadytaken 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yeah because you were totally just about to install Windows 10, then you heard the DVD player news and cancelled the Windows download.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

News to me, I installed my NVidia drivers without issue.

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[–] JimmyJimRyan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yeah, the graphics companies have been real cunts about drivers and they write shitty linux drivers. The community has been willing to write them for them but they wont let them so they basically have to reverse engineer the graphics cards which means it takes a while and newer cards aren't as well supported.

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[–] Turnip_Time 4 points 23 points (+27|-4) ago 

Just rip the DVD or use VLC and save yourself 15 dollars. You know what? Screw the whole thing. Just download a 1080p Blu-ray rip and spend the money on more mind bending drugs.

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[–] onesidedsquare 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

And just what are people using to rip DVD's now a days ?

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[–] White_Raven 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

DVD decrypter still works on most DVDs, and there are others for BR. Handbrake is phenomenal for reencoding your rip to a smaller format without harming quality much. RedBox is a fantastic way to stuff a library and avoid any isp notices.

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[–] jnr 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I used MakeMKV to rip about 100 DVDs I owned and it worked flawlessly. I then used Handbrake to transcode them and make them smaller, as @White_Raven mentioned.

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[–] Stavon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

VLC can rip DVDs. But handbrake is the quick and easy way to do it.

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[–] heyitsfred 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

This makes sense, the DVD codecs "officially" require licensing fees, so a company like Microsoft either has to pay to include them in a piece of software or charge users for them. It's a strange gray area situation where they don't go after open source and free software projects, but big companies would get slapped with a lawsuit or some other sort of penalty.

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[–] Dav 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yep. Rather than charge every Windows user for the included codecs, just make an app available so the people that want them can pay for them, if they don't know how to get the feature for free.

Same thing was done on the original Xbox. DVD playback support was not included out of the box, you had to buy a $15 (or so, I don't remember) dongle that contained the codecs and IR receiver for a remote.

This is actually a good thing, not sure why or how it's "highway robbery".

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[–] Adrinus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's like highway robbery, but the bandits are using fake guns to hold you up with.

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[–] 53army 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Because there is another free and legal software ?

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[–] Lodley 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

You had to buy DVD support for every version but 7. It makes sense to not make someone without a DVD drive pay for the codec

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[–] Moonbat 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Once upon a time Microsoft bundled software into Windows for free and people filed lawsuits, threatened to break up the company, and generally pitched a royal hissy fit. Microsoft just can't win.

But seriously, the main thing I want from my operating system is for it to operate my system. I'm not sure when we started expecting it to come with everything else and a toaster, bundled with it for free.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yet we talk of installing Linux and everyone bitches about it not coming with a toaster oven, dishwasher and jacuzzi.

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[–] immibis 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Linux typically comes with a lot more preinstalled stuff than Windows. And I'm not sure why nobody complains about that.

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