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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

If it makes you feel any better, threads like this keep coming up, so at least we're fighting and doing a decent job of it.

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[–] Lonecrowe 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Reminds me of christian apologists..

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[–] jnr 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

Also, you have to accept the license terms before creating an account. So this is not an issue of using a Microsoft account instead of a local account. This is also not conditional on using their cloud storage. The policy covers the entire device and all connected devices.

They built a front door into the OS and you can't lock it. You either accept it, or don't install it.

Obviously there are things like encryption and firewalls people can use to try and circumvent, but that doesn't make this okay.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

that doesn't make this okay.

I'm surprised there seem to be a lot of people who don't get this. Especially people who want to close holes with registry hacks - those are the sort of things that forced updates obliterate as security holes.

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[–] ITACHI 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So if I don't use a MS account, they'll stop spying on me?

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[–] Foobarbaz 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

So this is not an issue of using a Microsoft account instead of a local account.

As best as I can tell this is not the case otherwise the government and businesses would be at risk. Local accounts should be safe from this provided you don't enable the appropriate services.

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[–] Fragimar 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

The first time Windows releases a free update it can access your information and give it to the government.

I'll be right over here putting on my tin foil hat.

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[–] Interface 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

* /v/linux

Solid advice

* /v/debian

Why only showing ONE distrib ? You could have linked to v/Gentoo , v/Arch , v/Slackware , v/Redhat . You see, Debian, Gentoo, Arch, Slackware and Redhat are the major distributions. All of the distros are derivatives of these.

* /v/ubuntu

Whoa whoa, calm down, why linking to a unique distro ? (which is the most questionnable one)

What about v/Centos , v/Fedora , v/Linuxmint , v/Manjaro ?

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[–] hkrdrm 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Suddenly agreeing to be a HumancentiPad doesn't seem so bad http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sglZGSwK6ow/maxresdefault.jpg

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[–] spacedanspliff 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

i just switched one machine to it, if you are willing to jump onto the rather steep learning curve its definitely worth it.

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[–] Questionssm 1 points 40 points (+41|-1) ago 

Windows 1984 NSA edition.

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[–] Brah 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

http://ww.linuxmint.com/

Get to know the most popular Linux distro. He is your friend.

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[–] Pinyaka 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

I'd bet that Ubuntu is more popular than Mint. Mint is probably better though once you factor in Unity vs. Cinnamon.

Of course, Debian is everybody's daddy.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

AFAIK Ubuntu has (sort of) fallen from grace in recent years, with the whole Unity debacle and questionable choices such as privacy problems with their search systems (as was noted by Richard Stallman some time ago). Mint seems to be poised to be its successor, possibly, though there seem to be a lot of up-and-comers that are starting to make themselves more known.

That said, I'm concerned that UEFI will be seriously constraining the choices on many computers, since manufacturers are now OK'd to not have an "off" switch for it, which means only pre-compiled, signed kernels can be loaded. That cuts the legs out from under most Linux distributions, and very strongly skews it in favor of the ones that are backed by companies in one way or another (Red Hat and SuSE in particular, with Ubuntu being another favorite).

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[–] golden_wiener 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Not according to distro watch. Not sure how accurate that is though.

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[–] Interface 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

We have a plethora of "Ubuntu is so cool" "Ubuntu is so nice" "Ubuntu is the best distro" ...

Don't be fooled. This is not how you advice someone to start his way through Linux.

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[–] roznak [S] 7 points 1 points (+8|-7) ago 

It might be a shock to you but most people are not really that interesting for Linux, not even if it is free. Most people will just hold on to the latest Windows they have as long as possible.

Microsoft is going to be forced to undo the privacy policy. But it could take a couple of years. Windows users can be very patiently waiting. Windows 10 actuality does not add a benefit to Windows 7 users with this massive privacy hole.

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[–] Brah 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Windows is so utterly outdated that they have been forced to copy features from many Linux distros. Honestly, it is a terrible OS that buys its way into our lives. It's closed source, so there is no legal way to determine if they are truthful or deceptive about privacy violations. Microsoft won't be forced to do anything; people need to forcibly free themselves from the grasp of this organization and take ownership of their digital world.

There is honestly no reason to use Windows outside of mere preference or taste. And Windows is rather distasteful.

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[–] ToOnMaN 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I run a custom build and repair shop from my home and have for about a decade. In the first few years i had never even had a customer ask me about or even know what linux was. In recent years more and more people have been asking me if i can install Android on their computers, then begins the linux talk. Last year i install linux distro's 11 times, this year 23 times, so far. BUT now when i get repeat customers for malware cleanup i suggest a linux distro as a means of combating being forced to cleanup their pr0nware.

So i agree, even after decades linux hasnt picked up enough of the market to even be known by the masses.

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[–] Paranoidroid 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Agreed totally. I personally will upgrade to 10 soon as microsoft pushes it down... Still waiting for the update. That's for my personal laptop, which is just a tinkering toy really. I wouldn't let win10 within 10 miles of my workplace, though. On counterpoint to linuxmint... Yeah right, no way I can do my work on that unless I'm running an emulator, and then what's the point.

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[–] raydeen 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Pretty sure Mint is a 'she' given the codenames for each release. :)

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[–] MakoShrk 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

None of these privacy efforts will change MS from implementing a global scale monitoring network. First the cloud, now home computers. Wake up people and start caring about your personal data privacy. Your data will be used against you when the time comes.

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[–] thenerd 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Long live Linux.

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[–] Kookus 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

If I didn't absolutely have to have Windows for gaming purposes, I'd drop it entirely, but they have the market on that shit, so I have to keep it around. And don't bring up wine... we don't discuss that in polite company.

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[–] kendamagendale 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

There may come a time when you have to decide between freedom and playing video games.

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[–] Kookus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Maybe, but that day is not this day. And today, if I want to play PC games, I have to have a Windows partition.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Unlikely, particularly if game developers move to broader Linux support. Windows 7/8 will probably work for the games that don't for a good number of years yet and if your Windows install is unable to access absolutely anything that's potentially sensitive then you're going to be fine.

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[–] oooooo 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Well you got 5 years of support still for Windows 7. I myself am optimistic for Valve's push for Linux (see Steam Machines). Gaben already called foul on Windows long time ago. Here's to him being right and me buying far fewer windows-only games in the future.

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[–] Kookus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

True, but there are already games in the pipe listing "Windows 10" as a requirement, and the newest DirectX will be locked in to that OS. This is how Microsoft maintains vendor lock-in on the gaming market.

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[–] recursive 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

If you absolutely have to have it for gaming, then you don't absolutely have to have it.

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[–] roznak [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

And that is exactly the big flaw in the Linux community. Bad in marketing.

Don,'t tell the users that it is open and free and more secure. Show them that with just simple mouse clicks you install the OS, without having to resort to editing config files or go through a hardware compatibility list.

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[–] Vailx 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

In fairness man, it's hard to keep up with Linux. I almost always need to ask people to find out some simple things. Look on the bright side, at least it isn't people bitching about systemd.

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[–] Foobarbaz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

My last CLI experience with Linux was kernel 2.2 -> 2.4 jump. My last UI was Ubuntu about two years ago. My how things have changed. Ubuntu felt like a copy of OSX but things, such as printers, were FAR easier to get working than when I last used Linux. More items Just Worked (TM).

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