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[–] cky_stew 3 points 27 points (+30|-3) ago 

Everyone's doing it so it must be fine.


[–] Ultra_HR 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago  (edited ago)

What could they do with our data that could possibly be bad? Honestly?

Now, I'm not approving of the "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear" stance, that's also bullshit - but like the guy above said, they aren't collecting this data so they can, I don't know, have a record of every member of the human race. What use would Microsoft or Google or anyone have for that?

They use it to create good software. Google Now does some fucking cool shit by reading the contents of my emails. If I book a flight, it'll automatically give me reminders when I should leave to get to the airport in time and show me my boarding passes automatically when it's time to board and all sorts of cool stuff, and I'm totally okay with Google being able to read my emails so it can provide that service.

If I was going to do anything I didn't want them to know about, I'd use a private internet service, linux virtual machine, VPN, a whole ton of things. There're plenty of things you can actively do to prevent your data being collected, but companies like Microsoft collecting it when they can to provide good experiences in things like Cortana - where's the harm in that?


[–] Interface 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

"Over the last 16 months, as I've debated this issue around the world, every single time somebody has said to me, "I don't really worry about invasions of privacy because I don't have anything to hide." I always say the same thing to them. I get out a pen, I write down my email address. I say, "Here's my email address. What I want you to do when you get home is email me the passwords to all of your email accounts, not just the nice, respectable work one in your name, but all of them, because I want to be able to just troll through what it is you're doing online, read what I want to read and publish whatever I find interesting. After all, if you're not a bad person, if you're doing nothing wrong, you should have nothing to hide." Not a single person has taken me up on that offer."

-Glenn Greenwald in Why privacy matters - TED Talk


[–] Gracchi 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oh FFS. If had the personal data of all the people I know and all the people they know I could manipulate people for my advantage without them ever even knowing. And that's just on the personal level. On a macro level more applicable to MS, you can learn so much about society to manipulate.

Stop being so fucking naive. Even if you having zero to hide, that information in valuable and being stolen from you.


[–] cky_stew 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Tin foil hat time. A few reasons.

I think the one that applies to most is a matter of how much you value your individuality and freedom to make consumer choices without subliminal influence influence from targeted advertisement.

The value of this data they will collect is very fucking valuable to corporations that want to sell you shit. They can build custom profiles of people and put this shit that you don't need in your start menu, search suggestions or whatever. They get this info by trawling through all your shit. I personally find this a large invasion of privacy, it's offensive that I even have to keep an eye out for this kind of thing to retain my freedom of choice. Imagine a dude with a suit just came into your house and started looking through your emails and search history, then opens a big folder, flicks through some pages and pulls out an advertisement of "the product you need". He can fuck right off, this is essentially what is going on here, except it's worse because they are doing it in secret.

If you ever want to get politically active against people with money about something and you've still got some pirated media from when you were a teenager, then you can say goodbye to that career as they will throw the fucking book at you. This is another thing Microsoft are accommodating for here, it's not even a secret anymore.

You're basically putting your information and wellbeing in the hands of people that have no interest in your wellbeing and will use that to profit for themselves. Unless you have 100% faith in the government and the corporate world looking out for you, then this is submission to them. The suits with big mansions and private jets will have even more control over you, and if the general population ever decides that these guys are full of shit and wants to do something about it, too bad, they will have seen it coming from our communication and they will stop it before it starts.

Some say we've passed the point of no return anyway, so fuck it, give them all your info. At least you get too look at some boxes rearranged differently.