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Systemd dependencies are creeping up into userland packages, so much that they will not be installable unless you have systemd.
This is by design , so everybody will have systemd
Clearly NSA had an issue, Linux was not soo spyware friendly, had to do something.
Systemd is the perfect answer, covers all essential services, it is monolothing, it is a binary blob of code, you cannot disable or "adjust" it.
What is more likely.... that a bunch of "programmers" got together to write a replacement for an init system (that was working) for free and for fun OR that NSA paid them to actually do it ?
This is ridiculous. Programmers operate mostly out of ego. They get some idea about how things should be and they make it. I think systemd is no different.
It's still completely open source and auditable.
Oh you know what else is big and monolithic? The kernel. That's right, they could monitor you from there.
Kernel has a well defined boundary and a clear defined API and it is not trying to go beyond that
Systemd is spreading left and right (someone jokingly saying that it will be the new linux kernel) , breaking stuff in the process and making itself mandatory when it was NOT
If you cannot see why this is bad.... you are on the other side of the fence, hopefully you are paid for it.
[–]Wowbagger0 points
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Okay, so it didn't support some features like Wake on LAN and you needed to write your scripts from a blasted heath while covered in pig's blood but Init DID work for the most part. I'm not particularly upset that it's replaced so much as that it's replaced with something that flies in the face of UNIX design philosophy.
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[–] privacy_first 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Systemd dependencies are creeping up into userland packages, so much that they will not be installable unless you have systemd.
This is by design , so everybody will have systemd
Clearly NSA had an issue, Linux was not soo spyware friendly, had to do something.
Systemd is the perfect answer, covers all essential services, it is monolothing, it is a binary blob of code, you cannot disable or "adjust" it.
What is more likely.... that a bunch of "programmers" got together to write a replacement for an init system (that was working) for free and for fun OR that NSA paid them to actually do it ?
[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
This is ridiculous. Programmers operate mostly out of ego. They get some idea about how things should be and they make it. I think systemd is no different.
It's still completely open source and auditable.
Oh you know what else is big and monolithic? The kernel. That's right, they could monitor you from there.
Not every last thing is a conspiracy.
[–] privacy_first 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
Kernel has a well defined boundary and a clear defined API and it is not trying to go beyond that
Systemd is spreading left and right (someone jokingly saying that it will be the new linux kernel) , breaking stuff in the process and making itself mandatory when it was NOT
If you cannot see why this is bad.... you are on the other side of the fence, hopefully you are paid for it.
Have a nice day.... in any case.
[–] trotskyberg ago
How can we get some more prolific contributors on board with this? Like an entire distro or from the kernel?
Sure, I can't deny that NSA is subversive as shit. We know that they're incessantly subversive because we know the kinds of people who make it up ;)
I'm hoping my favorite distro: Arch Linux, will have another full init system supported.
Also would be nice to be able to turn off AMD's PSP - because most of us don't have the cash to switch to Power9.
[–] ThisIsMyRealName ago
You set a low bar.
[–] privacy_first 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
If you definition of "working" includes being NSA ready, with cancer like behaviour and a force down the troath attitude...
well, yes, previous init systems where not up to modern standard
P.S. systemd also took "ownership" of the simple program su....
a machine with systemd is not your machine, it is somebody else machine. Use devuan
[–] Wowbagger ago
Okay, so it didn't support some features like Wake on LAN and you needed to write your scripts from a blasted heath while covered in pig's blood but Init DID work for the most part. I'm not particularly upset that it's replaced so much as that it's replaced with something that flies in the face of UNIX design philosophy.
[–] Plavonica ago
Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.