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[–] MetalAegis 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Our human brains are quantum computers on a fundamental level, consciousness uploading is likely not possible because of that. And even if it were possible, mind uploading will always be copy and paste, not cut and paste, you'd upload a digital clone of your mind and that digital copy of you awakens in some virtual environment, but the physical you with its physical consciousness is still just sitting there in the real world.

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[–] MetalAegis 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The brain is a chemical computer by nature but scientists believe (and this is still theory but we will know soon enough) that the atoms our neurons are composed of are in a state of quantum entanglement.

[–] chirogonemd 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think it has more to do with science doesn't understand how networks of neurons interface with the others. Our current types of computing are circuit based and components don't communicate with one another in the same way brain regions do. A group of neural circuits firing creates a voltage field. That voltage field, whether it be 40 Hz or 60 Hz or what have you, potentiates other neural circuits, as if certain wave patterns "awaken" different areas of the brain, and we access different parts of ourselves depending on the prevailing wave form that comes out of all the interference.

It's astounding and confuses the shit out of me.

The things with all of the arguments I am seeing here on Voat about what is possible and what is not, is they are foregoing the real takeaway of Elon's talk: past the singularity we just don't know. Once you have a sentient consciousness with the capacity to recursively improve itself, it isn't just the improvement itself that becomes fascinating, but the RATE. As it improves, it will gain the ability to improve at improving. The speed at which it will advance will be beyond our capacity to even reason about it.

We may think biological evolution produced a computer (in the human brain) that is superior, but we just can't possibly imagine what an intelligence like this would discover given sufficient time and power to operate.

[–] DiscontentedMajority 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

but the physical you with its physical consciousness is still just sitting there in the real world.

Not if the process is destructive. What if to do to this you needed to freeze someone's brain a cut it into thin slices that were run through a scanner.

[–] Justwhiteofcenter 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Except if you copy and replace your brain in stages modularly.

Then you get an in silico brain without the two copies problem.

[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Our human brains are quantum computers on a fundamental level

At best unproven. At worst, entirely wrong. I think it's wrong. Blue Brain has been doing some amazing work.

mind uploading will always be copy and paste

correct, except for the versions that kill the person being copied.