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[–] vulkan_ass_smack 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you absolutely have to have a smart phone it being obsolete "junk" is a good thing. If you can snag an "unsupported" 8.1 phone it won't have telemetry and still have the amazing built in apps like HERE+ etc. and also telegram still works and a few others.

Apps are a fucking meme anyways and almost always timesink trash

Also, FUCK Windows 10 though stay far away from that. Also I do not trust for even one fucking second that any of the custom roms are truly de-googled. That is their bread and butter... there is no way some nerds managed to actually de-google the base rom.

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[–] WORKJACK 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Everything is shit now not just Google but Facebook but windows is more.