[–] 3891776389 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

The only reason AMD uses ME is so they can be compatible with Intel's blu ray? WTf, i don't even have a blu ray disc drive.... I figured AMD was forced to simply because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and just copies Intel's tech. If AMD said they are not going to use ME at the cost of no blu ray technology, i would switch to them immediately for that reason alone. Jail break phones are popular, ME free OS's wouldn't be popular too?

[–] NeoGoat 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

WTF was my response also. I'd prefer a secure machine that even at the loss of protected content. In general, IDGAF about that brain washing shit.

[–] Rawrination 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

If you think this is about DRM and not having total ability to control every computer on earth, you're not thinking evil enough.

[–] Alopix 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

"Your computer isn't compromised by a rootkit so you can't look at this."

Pirates don't have this problem.

[–] Running_Bear23 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Nor does anyone paying for streaming services, or digital legal downloads. "Because Blu Ray" is a pretty shitty excuse.

[–] RoundWheel 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is not completely true. Some vendors have cut bus lines allowing the processor to boot entirely without ME. The u code is never loaded and the CPU never sees the embedded processor. Effectively killing ME.

[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What bus lines? Isn't it on the same die?

[–] RoundWheel 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

No. It is not part of the die. It's part of the companion chipset which provides for memory controllers, bus arbitration, external cache management and peripheral access.

[–] lifes-not-fair 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Which vendors? They should be supported.

[–] hafen [S] 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Source:

https://www.devever.net/~hl/intelme

[–] totes_magotes 8 points -1 points (+7|-8) ago 

This is what you should have posted, not a screenshot. This isn't reddit, pup.

[–] Fambida 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

Note that his link is not properly parsed by Voat. Note also that we ban link shorteners. Note further that that site blocks archiving. While I agree with you in principle, you get a downvote anyway for demanding the inordinately difficult.

He did what he reasonably could and posted the fucked up link in the comments so that people could copy/paste it.

[–] hafen [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Voat doesn't allow you to submit links with special characters. You could see for yourself how the hyperlink came out incomplete in my comment above.

I personally think that submitting the screenshot and then linking to the source in the comment allowed for easier consumption, thus making it the better compromise. One click and you're there, plus you have a working thumbnail, as opposed to the four clicks it takes to highlight.

https://voat.co/v/voatdev/2644419

[–] Adminstrater 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Probably should just run a Raspberry Pi... Unless.....

[–] MaverickMeerkat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The pi doesn't have the ARM equivalent and I've tried it as a daily driver to replace my i5 Linux setup.

It works fine but you're back on underdimentioned hardware and using Raspian OS is close to unbearably slow.

[–] Master_Foo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I believe the Raspberry Pi runs a Cortex A53 which is about as dumb a as a modern processor can get. It's not affected my Meltdown or Spectre.

[–] fhaqyu 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

ok, novice here. is there any alternative to intel or AMD??

WTF??!?!?!?!?

edit: i found this company that seems to do x86 - does anyone know much about this? VIA Technologies

[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

VIA were mostly really low power processors that were copies of Intel/AMD. Their best x86 processor is still a quad-core at ~1.6Ghz from about 3 years ago. And they are expensive as hell for what they are. So far, all I can really find is the 1.2 Ghz Quad with a MiniItx board for about $300. Unfortunately, I can find nothing that says if they have the ME-style systems built in.

[–] fhaqyu 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

awesome, thank you!

[–] lopan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes, they've been around for a long time

[–] fhaqyu 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

i couldn't find anything about if the have the same functions of the ME - any thoughts on them?

[–] talmoridor-x 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

2018

not building your own pc / writing OS from scratch

[–] Alopix 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

it doesn't make a difference if you plug the CPU in yourself vs have someone else do it if it's compromised at the factory

[–] Fagtardicus 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

not using templeOS

[–] Anam 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Nope. Using MINIX whether we want to or not.

https://itsfoss.com/fact-intel-minix-case/

[–] Alopix 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

Because they're an Israeli company

didn't read article, don't need to

[–] Y8goKTH959VCLKty8xIz 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Yep tldr: because Jew

[–] 475677 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Wouldn't it make more sense to secure the bluray drive instead of a cpu? Seems kinda fucky to me.

[–] Alopix 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

What makes the most sense is not to pay for media that demands you install a virus to watch it. Pirate it or just don't watch it

[–] RollinDaGrassTyson 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

just don't watch it

100% agree but this is a tall order for most normies.

[–] lipids 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Have you looked at the hdmi standard? It's DRM from disc to display, every step of the way. If DRM wasn't such a big concern, hdmi wouldn't exist.

[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

A secure drive needs something also secure to send data to. Otherwise it basically is sending unencrypted data and someone could steal the stream thereby negating the DRM completely. Ultra HD stays encrypted basically from disk to display and everything in between has a part in processing it encrypted and must have the proper keys.

[–] B3bomber 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Totally stopped them from ripping the content didn't it? DRM is a fucking scam and the hardware supporting it is a scam too. There is nothing good about Intel/AMD ME module.

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