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[–] kalgon 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Fuck yes

I don't care how much it's going to cost more, everything has a price, you don't want to empower china it comes at a price

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[–] Jpaul199 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Their laptops already cost about a million dollars, it can't get too much more expensive.

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[–] speedisavirus 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Their machines do seem to be extremely well spec'd and made though. When I replace my business machine for my freelance work I'd consider them since it will be a tax deductible expense...

They would make for some nice dev machines.

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[–] throwaway18951 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm a proud system76 Oryx Pro user.

The spirit of their company is amazing.

Computer has lots of power. Took some time switching to Linux, coming from Windows.

It is expensive, but I like being a part of the cause they espouse.

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[–] kjell 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There on the level of top end XPS or old Lenovo laptops. They are top notch and desire their premium price.

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[–] dspfoisdafodsi 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I don't care how much it's going to cost more, everything has a price, you don't want to empower china it comes at a price

it'll cost you a US government backdoor, you could argue that it's better than a chinese one, and you could be right, but other could argue they'd rather be spied on by a governement on the other side of the word.

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[–] kenlane 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It's linux based. There may be a backdoor, but if it exists it's at the hardware level. Unless you are stallman and using purely free hardware and software you risk that no matter what.

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[–] kalgon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Pretty sure the same backdoors are used by both

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[–] SpeakerToAnimals 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Does it have the UEFI bootloader? it has a USG backdoor

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[–] HorrorOfTheRusski 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Why, wages in the US are not that much higher than in China, if at all

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[–] kalgon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

China is that country where they need to put suicide nets around factories

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[–] WTFisWrongWitU 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Are you serious?!?!

As much as I don't trust China, at least they don't give a fuck about what Americans do in America. Unlike our CIA, I don't wanna deal with what Cisco customers deal with.

This is why I buy Apple and load otherOSes, I don't want chips made in merica, used in merica.

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[–] kalgon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah right, chinese don't give a fuck about what americans do in america

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_espionage_in_the_United_States#Cyberwarfare

Besides I don't see what your argument has to do with anything here "at least they don't give a fuck about what Americans do in America"

So fucking what? It's about time western countries start to manufacture their own shit again instead of being totally dependent toward china, about time to bring back the industrial base, about time to pull the breaks on wealth transfer

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[–] kenlane 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I actually just bought one of there PCs. Arrived today in the mail, I thought they were already built in the US until it shipped from California (when they are located in Denver). It's a good pc regardless. I'll point out the operating system is Ubuntu with a slightly different color scheme (We'll see how long it takes before I roll a linux from scratch install out). BUT for the price the hardware is fantastic

Pop!_OS 17.10 (64-bit) 13″ 3200×1800 HiDPI Display Intel® UHD Graphics 620 4.0 GHz i7-8550U (up to 4.0 GHz - 8MB Cache – 4 Cores – 8 Threads) 16 GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2400MHz (2× 8 GB) 250 GB NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD WiFi up to 867 Mbps + Bluetooth

some of the upgrades (RAM and CPU) are a bit overpriced imho but it still cost ~$1000 less than a mac with the same specs and good luck finding too many windows PCs with the same spec.

I actually ordered it last Monday so it only took 8 days to get here which is fantastic.

I haven't looked under the hood of their OS much yet so I'm holding my overall opinion until I see if they really fucked is up by not removing the crap that's in Ubuntu, which btw they based it off the testing repositories (/etc/apt/source.list literally points to ubuntu repositories)...

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[–] lbruiser 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I've read weak battery and loud fan noise. How are your experience with these?

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[–] kenlane 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

battery life is fine. The worst part is the OS which underestimates teh time your battery will last. I used it from 10-~330 today and the whole time the battery indicator said it had like 2 hours less than it actually did. I'm sure if you use the keyboard backlighting a lot or some crazy power settings it will be worse.

The fan is silent, again though it's a laptop so not too many fans. The fan placement is stupid as shit though, being on the bottom I'm convinced the airflow is crap and it will heat the table below it. BUT if that's the only problem, I work indoors so it's manageable.

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[–] num 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

So little California. Whatever. At least it's the USA

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[–] zx1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Because California sucks.

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[–] num 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Little California as in Denver is essentially California

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[–] pinkmagnet 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Lots of mestizos to build them computers.

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[–] therealsharpie 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Who buys system76 products anyway is what I'm wondering

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[–] num 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Good question.

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[–] sLnTsRvC 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I like how bar tending experience is a plus for your resume with this company.

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[–] slope 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That's weird, all you really need is any computer and Linux disk/usb.

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[–] Secus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Wow! I've been looking at linux portable systems for a while, s76 looks even better if they're producing in USA.

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[–] goatism 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What manufacturing? They just rebrand Clevo/Sager units... Well, maybe they start actually building stuff instead of charging 20% extra on a cheap laptop for installing Linux on it...

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[–] ColaEuphoria 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

An extra cost to guarantee Linux working properly on the laptop hardware with in-house drivers especially with WiFi AND making sure the laptop isn't dead on arrival from China is a pretty good incentive in my opinion.

They also needed profit to even make it this far to do in-house manufacturing. They also work on drivers so the installed Linux doesn't fuck itself for whatever reason.

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[–] FreeToLive 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Great for intercepts!

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