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[–] Obeastiality 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

These kill your bees. There's several really good youtube videos on it from real beekeepers

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[–] NoisyCricket 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Was going to post the same thing. Experienced beekeepers consistently give these things poor marks.

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[–] massiveprivilege 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Post some links

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[–] FuqingRight ago 

Codys lab, 12 year bee keeper

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[–] killer7 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Let me think: bees become disease-prone?

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[–] Possibly_a_Carrot 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

So far I can't actually find anything that backs these claims up. Take them with a grain of salt.

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[–] Wahaha 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Apparently the thing uses plastic (that stuff is hormone-disrupting) inside, poisoning the bees and the honey with polypropylene. Wouldn't eat honey that comes out of this.

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[–] GoatEmperorTrump 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Great point. I am trying to eliminate as much plastic and petroleum based products that I ingest or put on topically, and it is a harder task than I imagined when I started.

If I know food is produced or comes from plastic (like this honey) I would not use it either.

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[–] Camamoow 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Can you link some articles/research for this, my brother is an amateur beekeeper.

And, he was thinking of upgrading to over if these in the future, and id like to let him know. But if I don't have anything banking that claim, it won't go over well

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[–] Obeastiality 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

http://patrick.freivald.com/2015/04/26/my-thoughts-on-the-flow-hive/

If he already has a hive i don't know why he'd want one of these. Flowhive is actually a subscription service because you have to keep buying their plastic frames or the bees die.

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[–] ZapptheBrannigan 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

How about a smart guy, that talks about it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4v4IHGvPLA

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[–] Possibly_a_Carrot 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

As far as I can find, there is absolutely nothing that backs up the claims here other than a post on the flow hive forums where some of the user's combs were being damaged, and the consensus from the people there was "don't worry about it. The bees are NOT eating the plastic" and that there must have been some other insect in the hive at some point.

The only verifiable things I can find that people are saying is wrong with it are: "omg its different it must die!!!"

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[–] Wahaha 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

The plastic thing? For first reading you could skim over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_pollution For something that may fit better than some wall of texts to get someone to open to the topic, the movie "Plastic Planet" (https://www.evildomain.com/Plastic-Planet-Werner-Boote/dp/B004IY3G32/) could work. I was introduced to it through this some years ago. Nothing of that specifically mentions bees, since that is more or less a new thing to get popular, but the principals and takeaway are the same.

The important part is, that microplastics affect the hormones of animals and people. Transformed some male frogs into females. After exposed to the gist of it, you also will start to wonder if plastics are to blame for most of the mentally ill/gender confused people nowadays.

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

For only 6× the price of a normal hive you too can watch your hive die through this lovely observation window because some crowdfunding shukster convinced you that knowledge doesnt matter and the only risky thing about about beekeeping is interacting with the bees when you go to pick up your honey!

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[–] SealofApproval 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

One of the comments at the end said it all ...Frankly, this looks more like an advertisement than a report about technology. Nothing much new here. Move along.

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[–] jsac 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Nice advertisement

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[–] gundosumfin 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

yeah, lets keep fucking with the bees they seem to love that!

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[–] Islamiscancer 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

what? this isnt really fucking with the bees. do you not already own bees? stop being such a faggot

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[–] gundosumfin 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago 

yeah this practice is disruptive to the bees. youre just gonna have to take my word because i cant stand people that dont read

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[–] SolarBaby 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Those are great but they are not new as they've been out for at least a decade.

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[–] Otter5000 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Not true, they've been out for just under 5 years.

I'm a beekeeper btw. These were designed in Australia. In North America where the winters are long and very cold these may not keep your bees warm enough to survive.

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[–] carnold03 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What if I wanted both the honey AND the wax? Then comes the big question, what chemical make up is used for the plastics in this thing? Bees have enough to deal with than a toxic plastic affecting their hormones in their hive.

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