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[–] Baconmon 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

Pretty much.. GM is in to lots of diversity hiring also, and of course there was the GM streetcar conspiracy where they bought and then sabotaged (through neglect of maintainence) the train stations so they would have to be shut down to force people to buy more of their cars..
This is why the public transportation in USA blows so much compared to other countries..

[–] Optional_Reading 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

The movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit is about streetcar conspiracy.

[–] bernitdown 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

GM isn't doing so hot since Barra took charge.

[–] NicknameUnavailable 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Chrysler was the worst car I ever had. Fucking brand new, after 2 years everything was broken. Worthless brand.

[–] Gimmemymoney 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Chryslers owned by fiat so go figure.

[–] ARsandOutdoors 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The saying goes with their trucks, “you spend 50 grand for a Cummins, and the dodge comes for free.” Every, and I mean every Chrysler product pickup truck, diesel or gas, The front end goes out.

[–] spherical_cube 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Let me guess. You went and bought a Nissan to replace it?

[–] Cat-hax 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Besides the fact that they are shit cars.

[–] Dfens [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Made primarily in Mexico and China.

[–] lipids 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Because they can't compete against these trade deals. You can't stack the deck against them and complain when they fail.

[–] Dfens [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The really sad thing is, GM, Chrysler, and Ford basically stacked the deck against themselves. They were all calling for so called "free trade" as a way to stick it to their unions. The CEO's and board made money running the corporations into the ground. Then we bailed the out.

I'd like to see Trump decrease regulations in addition to the tariffs. The current car companies are scum. We need some new blood. Tesla was a good start, but we need more innovation.

[–] Glossolalia 2 points 23 points (+25|-2) ago 

Nip cars are better, and they're usually made in the US. Fuck the so-called "American" cars.

[–] A_Real_Cause 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

true. own a subaru after owning "american" cars my entire life. fantastic vehicle and produced in Illinois.

[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You actually own a Fujitsu Heavy Industries car. I had a B4 before moving back to the states. I miss that thing.

[–] Kick_Start 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Subaru is the least American-made of the jap brands. See the Kogod Index. Toyota and Honda make cars here, designed by Americans, with American parts. Subaru only assembles two of their cars here and the total impact on the American economy is calculated to be less 50% on the Outback and Legacy, and 0% on everything else.


[–] speedisavirus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What subaru. Subaru builds outbacks, imprezas, and foresters in Indiana. Lafayette Indiana.

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[–] Dfens [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

All the parts are made in the same factories in Mexico and China. What the tariffs do is bring the manufacturing of the parts back in the US.

[–] Kick_Start 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Here’s how to tell for sure:


[–] Glossolalia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thanks, that's a pretty cool resource, I wish I knew about it earlier.

[–] Dfens [S] 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

Goodbye trillion dollar a year trade deficit! https://imgoat.com/uploads/4229abfcfa/90261.png We won't miss you.

[–] pby1000 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago 

I suspect the trade deals were made stupid on purpose. They cannot tolerate a strong and well-armed American middle class.

[–] Dfens [S] 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

The US lost trillions and the people who sold us out made millions. What a bargain.

[–] Pwning4Ever 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

We don't even need to trade with shithlle countries. Just drastically reduce taxes and other regs

[–] normal_white_kid 5 points 12 points (+17|-5) ago 

They don't buy US cars for the same reason we don't. They are cheaply made, unreliable, and automatic.

[–] Adam_Jensen_ 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

cheaply made, unreliable, and automatic.

This can be applied to some German cars as well.

Many Euros I've met have a strange affinity to Mustangs, don't know why.

[–] spherical_cube 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Probably the same reason parts of car culture here slobber all over anything that's "JDM", except replace that with "USDM", and nothing represents that more than the Mustang does. First time Ferd has sold the Mustang outside the U.S.

That and for the power, you can't get anything much cheaper over there. Usually if you want something powerful, you're also going to get a shit ton of luxury along with it. Never mind that in order to put all that power to the pavement in a controlled manner you either need to get the GT350 or spend the money on mods that will effectively turn it into the GT350. But if all you want to do is a few burnouts and then put it back in the garage, it fills that market segment cheaply, much more than say, the C7 does.

[–] normal_white_kid 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I didn't know this. Are you talking about Mercedes (large engine, rwd)? Or is there some other makes and models in Germany that the US is not accustomed to? And when I say cheap I mean we can build a nice luxury sedan. But the interiors are always shit. Why put cheap plastics in a 50k+ car?

[–] fancypantsmanface 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Cause they're just stupid. Any high tuned euro car would leave them for dust but we don't have anything like American muscle cars cause a giant engine instead the best way to use a cars power. It's like wanting to use a sledge hammer to put a tack in the wall to hang a picture.

[–] speedisavirus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's almost like US makes are the 2nd and 3rd largest most sold in the world.

[–] WhiteRonin 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Ford owns Jaguar (or what ever amount). Plus Ford has different models outside of the US.

You forgot to mention expensive.

[–] Adam_Jensen_ 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I believe Ford sold Jaguar.

[–] PointsOutIdiots 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

You're an idiot.

[–] Carlosone 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Open up the old steel mills. America is back! Maga

[–] Cat-hax 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Yeah and stop selling all the scrap metal to china

[–] Carlosone 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Thank you brother I will!

[–] speedisavirus 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

And if no one is buying our steel because we kicked off a trade war and it's tariffed to hell? Most of the steel used in the US is still American steel. We export a lot of it.

[–] Carlosone 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The art of the deal baby!

[–] piratse 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Then they get shitty China steel. And most DNV followers have strict "no China" steel rules. (Edit, typo on DNV.)

[–] MetalAegis 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

America makes great pickups but they wouldn't sell in the UK and much of Europe because even an F-150 is too big for the tiny roads there.

[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Toyota doesn’t sell a Tacoma in Japan ;)

[–] Adam_Jensen_ 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think the Ford Ranger is coming back soon.

[–] spherical_cube 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And even the Ranger is a bit big for those medieval streets laid down 1000 years ago when the top speed was 5mph and everything was made out of wood and horsies.

[–] piratse 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

The new ranger is going to be the size of the late 90s f150.

[–] Dfens [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Tariffs are more about making parts here again. Right now, it doesn't matter what car you buy or where it is from. The parts are all from China and Mexico.

[–] gladly 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

If you want to sell cars, make better cars. Regulating the market is not helping anyone but the corporations and their owners. The more you protect an industry, the lazier it gets. US cars are shit because of low fuel prices and government protection. Remove that and you will see progress.

[–] Slayfire122 4 points 6 points (+10|-4) ago 

Perhaps we could also lower the standards for vehicles. You can buy a brand new vehicles in Mexico for $7000. Cheapest here is $12K.

[–] Empire_of_the_mind 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Have you been in a cheap Mexican car? Feels like a $7000 car.

[–] lord_nougat 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

As a best-case scenario. Normally they feel even cheaper and shittier than that!

[–] djsumdog 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Wat? In many cases, they're the exact same car! They're even made in the same factories.

[–] Chiefpacman 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Isn't that the quality of the car's/ the models?

Cars are really cheap in the Phillipines too; but they're not the same models as in America. Ford sells cars there, but they're smaller/ cheaper. Here is an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Everest

[–] ThirteenthZodiac 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

smaller and cheaper

I mean... It's not like I need a giant ass vehicle. I'm a single dude, I just need something to get around town, drive to work, hold a reasonable amount of groceries, you know?

[–] Slayfire122 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Yes. I'm talking about about cheaper models. The vehicles will have more lax safety and emission standards. They'll often be missing features such as keyless entry and power windows, sometimes even ac and radios. Granted they will all have manual transmissions, which cuts down on cost as well.

[–] olltre 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

so how realistic would it be to drive to mexico buy a car and drive back with it, and then save 5k?

[–] Slayfire122 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It's not as simple as buying a new car from an American dealer. You'd have to ensure the vehicle complies with US regulations, as well as being subjected taxes and fees. You'll also have to ship it across the border if I'm reading it correctly.


[–] speedisavirus 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Fuck that. Are you retarded? They are cheap because they are death trap pieces of shit.

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