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[–] Brachialis 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

Uber will be receiving 0 of my business, in forever.

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[–] dake 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Can you elaborate please? While I definitely have similar sentiments towards Uber, this looks like a pretty unpopular opinion these days.

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[–] Brachialis 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I've heard many reports from uber drivers about the declining rates and the increasing amount of drivers. iirc, one person said that uber support is virtually nonexistent and that to get the competitive rates in the market they're going to be dropping compensation even further.

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[–] brezzz 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm not OP, but my problem with Uber is that they offload liabilities to the drivers and don't even have the courtesy to call them employees. With some of their products, it's just "ridesharing" as if it's 2 college kids sharing the cost of gas to get back home, all to skirt laws and protections for drivers and for passengers. Some of them are silly, some of them like not discriminating are damn good and anybody doing the job in name or in practice should be bound to them.

They also rely on turnover to keep those prices low. Factoring in wear on the car I don't think their fares are at a break-even point for most drivers. I'm just not a fan of these new century business ideas, it seems if you have an app, the people that are self described progressive are willing to look the other way. I was mass downvoted on that other place when I brought up that extreme surge pricing is unethical, that it strands people and a cab ride should never cost hundreds of dollars even if you are forewarned. Meanwhile they will state that a regular cabbie is satan incarnate for trying to make not even take a few percent more by pretending their CC reader is broken.

Cabs do generally suck and some competition is good, my beef is with dispatched cabs being forever late. Perhaps when Uber owns the cars and is not exploiting the drivers with hidden costs I will be more inclined to use the service because dispatching is something they have really solved and not just offloaded costs on.

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[–] gvin1235 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I've always had good experiences with all my uber rides. All of the drivers I have had have been super friendly and the fares usually way cheaper than cabs (minus times during surcharges).

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[–] BobOki 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I will support whatever company decides to use self-driving cars to do my cab rides, Uber, Lyft, Taxi, that one kids business I read about awhile back.

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[–] Failboat 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Timmie! Timmmyah Timmyraw brbrbrbr Timay

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[–] macleod2486 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Timmie livin' a lie!

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[–] Fogreddit 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Fuck you Uber, let me buy a goddamn tesla first before you take them all.

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[–] Bleak_Morn 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Why do you want to drive? Driving is for people too poor to afford to pay someone or something else to do it.

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[–] CrackingYs 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Driving is for people too poor to afford dumb to pay someone or something else to do it.

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[–] Leadpipejedi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Daily errands, sure, I could see the benefit of having a self driving car pick up the kids or having all the cars communicate with each other to help decrease accidents but there definitely is something to driving a car. Driving down country back roads, taking a car around an empty parking lot after it snowed, etc. Will be interesting.

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[–] myriadic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It would be sooooo nice to take a nap during my hour long drive to work. Totally worth whatever it would cost.

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[–] Microcosm 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I theorize that this will start the downfall of the entire personal ownership car industry in decades to come. Why even worry about owning your own vehicle if you can preschedule a car to drive you around everywhere? No more need to have a garage, wash or change oil; no more service; fewer vehicles needed in total as rides become the prevalent form of local transport. Big shift in the economy to come for sure.

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[–] Bleak_Morn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yep. Seems awesome. And the ability to summon different types of vehicles. One day, you might flag down a bus. The next, a car. On the weekend, take a car to the hardware store and return in a truck full of lumber. Late for work? Summon a helicopter... or splurge on a fancy supercar for your next hot date.

A recent study found that we'd need a fleet of cars only 15% the size of the current fleet to meet everyone's needs.

In my own case, I value my car based on total cost inputs divided by the amount of time/miles I drive it each day. If Uber or something becomes the more efficient choice, I'll switch.

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[–] Microcosm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly! It will eventually be clear that total cost of ownership for the emerging model will be less. Look at the "mileage tax" local/state governments nationwide are considering. That would have a huge impact on TCO.

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[–] 789885 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think people would trash the vehicles (tragedy of the commons).

Something you own, like a miniature passenger rail car, would be a good alternative. The autonomous vehicles would be the "engines" that lug your "rail car" around. You could hook your "rail car" up to the "engine" to get power, A/C, and heat. It would dramatically reduce the maintenance necessary since you don't have to worry about an engine.

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[–] Microcosm 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's an interesting idea. I think the move from gas to electric and the emergence of a company like Uber is really going to have a large impact on the auto industry in the future.

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[–] SonOfRobin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think this is more likely.

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[–] TheITGuy 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

So it begins.... RIP America blue collar class.

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[–] Bleak_Morn 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Why? Blue collar people have always used tools and technology. A backhoe operator is blue collar. He is able to make a lot more money than a person trying to dig with their bare hands because of technology.

Technology delivers the most productivity to society when it liberates us from tasks that "even a mindless automaton can do". Driving is one of those things.

There are plenty of blue collar jobs that require intelligence, skill or creativity; I don't feel much sympathy for a person looking for "work" that doesn't involve any of those traits.

Of course, the reason I don't hire someone to fan me with palm fronds is that, due to minimum wage laws, it's cheaper to buy technology that fans me more efficiently.

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[–] TheITGuy 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Your right used tools to assist in work. But this technology can destroy a major industry. I'm lazy so i'll let CGP Grey explain the issue to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

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[–] theoceansinthestreet 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The emergence of new technologies to automate jobs will just create different jobs in different sectors. It always has. It's not like these technologies build develop and maintain themselves with no human interaction. No matter the infrastructure it always relies on human support.

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[–] dugitreadittime4voat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I guess I won't bother becoming an Uber driver.

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[–] Bleak_Morn 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Good idea... Guess it's back to studying to become a neurosurgeon for you, right?

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[–] dugitreadittime4voat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Exactly. Hope my twitch is not too much of a hindrance.

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[–] numberonewebhandle 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

you're a privileged asshole. no person actually having to bare any of these problem would have what you just said so much as occur to them

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[–] nebjak 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Taxi companies in my country are worse than mafia, Uber will never steal their business here.

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[–] rothx 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

self driving cars will replace them at some point. There is no stopping that.

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[–] nebjak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree, but in my opinion that will take more than 5-10 years.

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[–] Bleak_Morn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do people still mainly dig with hand shovels in your country or have they adopted backhoe technology?

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[–] nebjak 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No shovels, just hands.

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[–] MisterSlippery 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Uber finding yet another way to fuck over Uber drivers.

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