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[–] totes_magotes 4 points 3 points (+7|-4) ago  (edited ago)

NO. An education track is the only track. Potential immigrants must be able to complete a degree in four years and must have a job in the field in less than 6 months after they graduate (or prison until they do), the job must be here in the US, and it must be profitable (meaning reasonable income).

  • If they cannot read English, that automatically weeds them out (which is no different from current citizenship requirements).
  • They will need to be able to speak english (again, no different).
  • They will need to show that they can be productive and not a drain on society. (again, no different)

An education track addresses all of these problems and removes the need for work visas.

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[–] Dfens [S] 8 points 3 points (+11|-8) ago 

Uh, sounds merit based to me.

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[–] totes_magotes 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No, merit based is how well you do. This requires an education and just a passing grade and job acquisition.

And even if this is merit based (which it's not), then "merit based" would not necessarily require an education track while an education track absolutely would. "A is a subset of B"... come on man, this is simple logic that I should expect anyone at random to understand.

If this shit is merit based, then today's standard requirements are merit based since you have to show income, speak English, read English, etc.

But it just sounds like you want to lower the bar, let anyone in. Just like the other fake americans.

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[–] tendiesonfloor 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Go back to reddit, you kike-rat shill. Your faggotry doesn't work here.

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[–] Gargilius 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Where do you get the idea that the ability to read and speak English is part of the current citizenship requirements?

hint: it's not.

When I went through the naturalization process I remember the day of the interview, where I was quite shocked to see other applicants relying on translators to answer the questions for them - seriously : folks who were supposed to have spent at least five years in the country as permanent residents and weren't able to pick up the language in that time - and from what I understand, many didn't bother preparing for the civic exam either (from what I gathered from the dude who conducted my interview and noted how well prepared I was, apparently not that common...)

By the way, I agree that it should be a requirement, at the very least. Heck, when I visit a country - even for a short touristic stay - I do make the effort of learning how to say the equivalent of 'hello' and 'thank you' - which already puts me way ahead of most of these immigrants.

ps and if you mean that having some degree - from sh*hole countries - means shit, you are somewhat naive.

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[–] totes_magotes 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Where do you get the idea that the ability to read and speak English is part of the current citizenship requirements?

Right fucking here: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/educators/naturalization-information

If you see someone in the US who cannot speak English and they're doing things that very clearly says that they are a citizen, report them to ICE. If what you say is true, then the US didn't do it's job and they would be deported or at least wrung through a wringer for faking, lying, bribing, whatever on the naturalization process. Heads will roll.

ps and if you mean that having some degree

Did I say "have a degree"? No, I said go through a 4 year degree program. As in "I don't give a shit if you have the equivalent of 16 master's degrees, you go through another 4 year degree. Period."

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[–] bernitdown 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Sounds like they'll likely take less pay, which means Timmy McMiddleClass Whitebread is fucked.

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[–] totes_magotes 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Did you think that the education would be free? Fuck no. The immigrants have to pay for it. And a place to live. At the same time. That means that only the best come in. These will be people making more than generic middle class incomes.

All the poor immigrants, gone.

All the middle class immigrants, gone.

Almost no immigrants would be able to afford this, immigration drastically down.

We look like we promote education, win.

We get no more deadbeat immigrants, win.

Delays naturalization for at least 4.5 years, win.

Less jobs of all ranges going to immigrants, win.

I don't see a problem here.