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[–] CrimsonFuckr 1 points 59 points (+60|-1) ago 

Never. Fuck that noise. I don't want some committee in an ivory tower deciding the conditions of my death. My life is my own to spend as I will.

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[–] Morbo 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Absolutely. I want control over the things that put my life and family in jeopardy. It may not be ideal to have to make your own choices on life and limb, but in the heat of the moment I trust myself more than any committee of fools directed by lawyers looking to minimize lawsuit costs. It's on me to decide and I will gladly take that responsibility.

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[–] AnarchicAlpaca 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just liberty things.

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[–] greycloud 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I trust myself more than any committee of fools directed by lawyers looking to minimize lawsuit costs.

give it time and an AI will make that decision instead. and it ends up that people who die in a crash don't sue because they are dead and can't go to court. the AI probably won't understand the complexities, but it WILL understand the savings.

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

If other people are buying those self driving cars then the ivory tower committee will still be making those decisions even if you dont buy one for yourself.

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[–] NotWearingPants 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Those other cars decide to kill me + My car doesn't

or

Those other cars decide to kill me + My car does

While both options might suck, one clearly sucks more.

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[–] CrimsonFuckr 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

ahh the fatalist approach ehh? fuck that. even if others buy these cars, situational awareness and context is something computers cant really grasp.

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[–] Wonder_Boy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Never Forget Michael Hastings.

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[–] DestroyerOfSaturn 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I want an automobile that can't be hacked. It's too late for electronics, but stay out my rides.

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[–] spherical_cube 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Electronics aren't bad. Internet connected electronics, are. Very.

Automakers can barely handle writing the code that controls the engine. Barely. Computer security might as well be the moon to them.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

There's financial incentive for them to write code that can control the engine--without it the car can't be sold. There's no financial incentive for them to write secure code! They literally have teams of accountants and lawyers sitting there figuring out whether it's cheaper for them to invest xxx million dollars in improving their internal security auditing, or whether it's cheaper to just take the PR hit when an incident happens, give a million to the victims' families, and publish a quick software patch to fix that one vulnerability.

Plus, added bonus, the NSA drops off a briefcase of cash every once in a while if they keep some of those "bugs."

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[–] Thrus2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I can see the moon I believe it is there. I can't see their code and I don't believe there is strong security there, if there was the brakes and turning systems in a car would not be tied in to any other those two are the most dangerous to have a malfunction. With brakes you can counter acceleration with turning you can stop from making a sharp corner at speed. But most route them as drive by wire systems through the same system as the radio/gps unit that hooks to your cellphone and thus the internet. If they cared about security the minimum they would do is anything that could communicate outside of the car, radio, onstar, gps, remote door locks (It may take a whole separate circuit for remote start) would be separated by an air gap from the rest of the workings of the car, all so they don't have to buy another processor that likely cost them $10.

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[–] Cat-hax 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

My radio Wich is also part of the bcm can receive digital signals from radio towers that broadcast what's being played and then display it on the screen, now idk if they are connected but I don't trust it for shit.

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[–] DestroyerOfSaturn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks for elaborating on my point.

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[–] Reyvaan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

if you've read some of the Wikileaks during the election, it's already too late the CIA has the ability to take over and crash your cars and planes as well

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[–] greycloud 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

a whole lot of cars can be hacked now. if you want one that cannot be hacked you have to get mid 2000's model or older. the chips that tune the new ones can be hacked. some guys figured out how to hack a lot of them using the radio in the car to get into the chip that controls engine idle speed and the like. other cars can have their breaks remotely activated.

there is a simple hacking tool to break into any remote unlocking/locking system as well if you look for it. but it requires attaching a recording device to the vehicle and waiting for the person to lock or unlock it.

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[–] Wonder_Boy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is known as the Adama Defense.

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

Think about this - if the sjw diversity sluts and data whores in silicon valley will program a vehicle to kill you in order to save the lives of more people, what's to stop them from programming the vehicle to make those decisions not just based on the number of lives but on how valuable those lives are? How many people would have to be killed before the death stats from self-driving vehicles would prove the computer's death-calculus?

Three fucking white male pedestrians in a crosswalk vs vehicle occupied by one proud obese woman of color who relies on footstamps and ssd payments to get by because she is underpriviliged: Fatty-woc has a known heart condition and requires a seatbelt extender, slamming on the brakes has high likelihood of snapping the extender and any minor injury has high likelihood of sending driver into cardiac arrest. Computer is programmed to value the life of a woc as very high and the lives offucking white males as negligible. Computer elects to accelerate though the crosswalk to try and flip the pedestrians up and over the hood of the car to minimize the impact felt by precious jabba woc driver.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Think about this - if the sjw diversity sluts and data whores in silicon valley will program a vehicle...

lol, what planet are you living on? They don't write real code, they bitch at competent programmers until they implement the feature.

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Competant programmers program what their bosses tell them to.

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[–] klobos 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

But if it worked on facts, and had to decide based on value to society, we would have cars purposely speeding up to run over fats and niggers.

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Only if Tay were the ai that made those decisions

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[–] SaveTheChildren2 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Death-Calculus is a cool band name

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm sure there have been a thousand high school garage bands with that name over the years.

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[–] MONKEYBUSINESS 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ai is smart and always learns to hate niggers. I have faith in that 100%

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[–] speedisavirus 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

Fuck the greater good

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[–] spherical_cube 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] Justnit 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

SHUT IT!

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[–] kjell 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Damn straight. All for one and fuck everyone else.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago  (edited ago)

"Fuck everyone else" is often a successful game theory. It turns out that if everyone is saying "fuck everyone else," the system improves overall. Though this is true too when it's mixed in with some amount of cooperation.

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[–] MasivGam3 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The quest for the "Greater Good" regularly ends with genocide. That's the tradition. Just pick up any history book.

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[–] Kingleopold2 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

This is how shitskins think and it's why they have no past and no future. The ability to sacrifice for each other and for their civilization is one of the things that separates us from, and makes us better than them.

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[–] speedisavirus 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Not especially. You can say fuck the greater good and still contribute to it. It's like socialism. Socialism works...when you choose who is in your social. My family is in my social. The nigglets dirtying my window trying to clean it in Baltimore are not. So fuck them, run them over all day rather than sacrifice my life. I should be choosing where and what I sacrifice for.

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[–] Marku1 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

......can i have the car that runs people over while saying "oops"......autonomously

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[–] 4775795f4d616e 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It would sell quite well in France and Germany.

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[–] NeoGoat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

..I just typed something almost identical.

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[–] rndmvar 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

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[–] GoatyMcGoatface 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Ovens on wheels of course it was so simple that's how they did it!

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Now with Zyklon Bumpers!

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[–] ranch-othelioma 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

there are reasons certain vehicles with no computer controls are going UP in value.

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[–] MasivGam3 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

My next car is going to be some seventies relic with no fucking computers in it whatsoever.

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[–] white-male 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

America is better than other nations because the individual comes before the group.

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Like how individual nigger comes before the angry white male group right?

It's okay for straight white male society to not get jobs or university seats as long as all the "individual" niggers/spics women/trans get diversity hired.

All society that prioritize individual over the group will eventually fall into this "politically correct" slippery slope because of their unwillingness to cull undesirable individuals.

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[–] white-male 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Hiring someone because they are black or whatever other group they are in is not putting the individual first though. If I'm an employer and I have 5 applicants, 4 of which are white and 1 of which is black, and I hire the black specifically because he is black then I'm not putting the individual before the group. Same goes for trans, gay, or any other group. Diversity hiring is exclusively reliant on identity/group association rather than an individuals particular qualifications. So if a black guy or a trans 'person' or whoever else gets a job over a straight white male because they were better qualified then I'm not concerned. If they get the job because the organization needs to fill a quota then I have an issue with that.

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[–] Wonder_Boy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And because those individuals choose to put others before themselves (voluntarily).

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