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[–] novictim 1 points 34 points (+35|-1) ago 

BUY AMERICAN, HIRE AMERICAN

MAGA!

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[–] Gowdy 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

BUY AMERICAN, HIRE AMERICAN, FIRE MEXICAN/INDIAN

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[–] hels 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Fire and deport anything that isn't here legally.

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[–] marvin_nash 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

My company, (software), has been hiring Indians like crazy since Trump won. Trying to milk this while they can. Makes me sick

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[–] Fagtardicus 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

BOYCOTT ISRAEL

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The indians are way too deep in America's high tech industry (Other than video game industry).

The whole thing is compromised. Unless a race war happen nothing will change.

Note that I don't advocate for violence, but it's the truth.

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[–] go1dfish 5 points 4 points (+9|-5) ago 

See, this is one of those things where voat and I tend to disagree, but not entirely.

On its own: the statement "BUY AMERICAN, HIRE AMERICAN" is great. I absolutely encourage everyone to buy and hire whoever the fuck they choose.

But a lot of you folks want the government to force others to do the same, or to inject force into the market to artificially bias the market in favor of (politically connected) American companies.

We don't need to subsidize and tax everything in the world.

You mother fuckers need more Ron Paul in your life.

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[–] novictim 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

You mother fuckers need more Ron Paul in your life.

Like that last 4-5 decades of NeoLiberal Free trade was not enough?

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[–] saris 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Visa restrictions are one of the powers the president actually has and can implement. so not really. The president can allow or disallow anyone he wants into the country. Id rather have regulation that favors American workers over foreign ones anyday. Besides, if he's lowering the corporate tax (although I wish it was lowered to 1%) There's no need to hire overseas talent when you have great talent at home.

but really that's all that can be said on the subject. . .if Trump REALLY lowered the federal income tax AND corporate tax to a flat tax of 1%. . . and put a moratorium on ALL immigration for 3 years while tightening up the requirements(those still in line can still go through the process as there is a multi year waiting list already) Maaaaan, that would be glorious as fuck. A man can dream though.

Also visa law and regulation is a part of border law, so Now actually, Ron Paul would NOT mess with that, and probably would make it stronger as well. He DOES believe in borders after all.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

hire Anerican

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 3 points 26 points (+29|-3) ago  (edited ago)

It's a good first step, but the impact on salaries will be minimal. What we need is enforcement of current laws that require evidence no American can fill the position. As practiced that requirement is ignored.

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[–] 0110001111 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

I was gonna say, we also need to focus on super scummy vendor companies which fuck over their workers by skimming 40% or more off the top.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 3 points 18 points (+21|-3) ago 

According to Wikipedia only about 20% of H1B and L1 applications are denied. That means Americans are pretty much directly competing with the whole third world for these jobs.

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[–] Cucky_Sanders 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

I think we should also ban those slime ball Temp-Job Agencies too, companies use them to avoid paying a working wage w/benefits.

Shitttty companies like Wal-Mart that have a point system designed knowing almost no one will make it out of the probationary period. 5 mins late a few time and catch the flu this winter? "sorry you're fired apply again in 6 months".

This allows them a revolving door of workers they never have to give raises or benefits.

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[–] Alopix 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Let's also remove women and illegal immigrants from the labor force

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[–] spherical_cube 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Agreed. Nothing right away, but if next time someone walks out the door from getting abused and they find it hard to replace, the only thing they know how to do is up salary.

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[–] Dfens [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I must be old because I remember when it was like this in America. Damn I miss that place.

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes this is my thought as well.

The thing is like the indians don't need to be present in the US.

"Offshore" is how you pay programmers dirt cheap while pocketing all the money.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I'll believe it when I see it.

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[–] bufferoverflow 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

most big tech firms have overseas facilities and legally hire cheap labor with nary a single visa being required. one US company recently laid off several hundred americans and is hiring several hundred indians to offset that. no offense to my indian colleagues, but the companies are usually getting what they pay for- high turnover, very slow development, communication issues, all of which will quite easily offset any perceived savings.

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[–] Slavosaurus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I've met only one good Indian developer in my whole life and for that man I got respect. Rest of them? Jesus Christ they are a laughing matter. You can save money on Indians only short-term because as soon as the product of their work need some altering then everything comes crumbling do you need to hire either real talent or do it again.

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[–] NotoriousIUD 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Jesus Christ i argued with a lefty engineer friend of mine about this. Even though his company doesn't employ many h-1b employees he didn't believe me it would increase his salary if they were limited since there's a lot in his industry.

Dude is fucking dumb.

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[–] GrandNagus 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Supply and demand is a difficult thing to understand if you are a leftist.

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[–] NotoriousIUD 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Yeah I wasn't trying to be smug about it with him either. It was more of a "Hey your pay might go up eventually" thing.

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[–] MannKepetry 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

supply and demand is global. unless companies get suddenly more efficient there will be less production und this less or smaller companies. itl become difficult to sell less product for the same price on the world market.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Does he think education results in higher salary as the sole factor?

Why do Lib arts have to work at Starbucks?

The demand for skills is what pushes wages

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[–] Dfens [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If liberals actually understood how capitalism works they wouldn't be dumbass socialists.

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[–] TrueAmerican 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I'll believe you when you post evidence that you got a raise. Im an engineer and i agree with your lefty friend.

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[–] BordelonLoop 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

and the rinos want to sneak amnesty and other shit into the spending bills.

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[–] dzdork 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Yeah, they are trying to sneak amnesty for DACA aka dreamers in. Will Trump sign it?

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[–] DayWalker 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

not if he wants a second term

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[–] BordelonLoop 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

if he does, he's fukked.

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[–] jack_burns 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I don't see a quota change lowering the number that can come in, it just makes it a bigger hassle. I hope that I missed something.

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[–] Radbod 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

American engineers will spend and invest this money in America instead of sending their savings to India and China. So there will also be a trickle down effect.

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