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[–] NotoriousIUD 0 points 107 points (+107|-0) ago 

Keyboard and mouse would be even better.

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[–] SonOfSnowden 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

360 no-scope was so 2015... 360 periscope is the new hotness

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[–] OriginalReaper 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Us military gets locked into retarded expensive contracts. A radio cable is listed as $30000.

Some argue it's a conspiracy to funnel money into the nsa or other shit, but typically the us govt is raped.

Another example are the Abrams tanks http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/28/pentagon-tells-congress-to-stop-buying-equipment-it-doesnt-need.html

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[–] Mew_Jedia 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago 

Would they though? I'd think the average person has more experience with a modern console controller than WASD and mouse, but what do I know? Give me a multi-million dollar grant to conduct a study.

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[–] Lev-ice 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I would hope that if the Navy is trusting you to use equipment aboard a submarine you could wrap your head around a keyboard and mouse.

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[–] DeusExSapientia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'll be circle-strafing enemy terminators when given a mouse and keyboard.

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[–] OhBlindOne 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

If you're in the navy and are controlling a (potentially nuclear) submarine's parascope, you're more than likely familiar with using a keyboard.

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[–] jackfraser 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

This guy fucks

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[–] canbot 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

There is no desk by the periscope for the operator to put a keyboard and mouse. The controller is handheld and mobile.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Sounds to me then like the ideal solution is actually neither the $18,000 joystick nor the $300 joystick. It is instead a small $400,000 redesign of the sailor's station in order to accommodate a keyboard and mouse.

Signed,

Lockheed Naval Division President

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[–] 10544667? 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I'm always right

And most of the time it sucks

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[–] revofire 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Also VR is going to be big on military. Gladly though it's going to be big on gaming too.

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[–] cmor88 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I thought skateboarding was still a niche x-games quasi sport. I don't consider video games a sport as a sport implies moderate to intense physical exertion, but there is no doubt that they are huge spectator events in South Korea.

Games/controllers have always been a recruitment tool for the military especially military themed FPS.

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[–] ThisIsMyRealName 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

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[–] Fuzzycrumpkin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Military has been using video games as recruiting tools since 2002 at least. It was called America's army and you can play the AA3 on steam for free still.

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[–] Forevermary 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

The government trying to save money on military spending?? No way!

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[–] DiscontentedMajority 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

They'll just use it for some other stupid shit.

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[–] twee 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Like more military.

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[–] GIF-lLL-S0NG 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Yes it is too good to be true. They spent 18k + on the fancy one, nobody could use it, and once the contractors cashed the checks, they ditched the POS system for a COTS system. Standard operating procedures.

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[–] Rakosman 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Schools are just as bad.

$5 replacement whiteboard markers that the kids stole? Nope, $10 and you have to wait weeks for them to order it

$1000 dollar laptop? Naw, that's gonna be $2500, worse, and you won't have it until halfway through next year

Free student licenses of tech software? Naw, we have to get the premier license for the program that's more complicated than it needs to be, never have it working properly or up to date, and then cut the class.

Companies rip off schools because the school just asks where to sign and the people in charge are always complete useless unqualified idiots

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[–] Pepper-theDoctor 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It's ultimately incompetent employees. If you waste money for a competitive company (and aren't in hr/marketing) you aren't going to last. If you waste money for the government, they'll just reward you with more next year

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[–] PartandParcel 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago 

Most milliary personnel have been training all their lives to do this.

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[–] SonOfSnowden 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

From a pure training standpoint, almost all of the sailors are very familiar with the controller. It's also very universal in that it's just a USB device. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the military starts integrating these into all kinds of systems.

10 years ago, the military was impressed at how easily this generation was able to learn to fly drones. I predicted that they'd basically just use a video game interface as it's almost functionally identical. Looks like this is the first step.

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[–] WitnesstheSalt 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Mind you they'd never do that for the more critical systems. Last thing you need is someone trying to throw a Hadoken while they're steering.

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[–] 1True_Morty 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Bridge Officer: HELM! GIVE ME RAMMING SPEED!

Helmsman: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

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[–] GR1FF0 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think you mean the first thing we need is someone successfully throwing a hadoken while they are steering.

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[–] SonOfSnowden 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well in a battle they could always do ...

up up down down left right left right b a b a select start 

for additional lives.

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[–] canbot 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The hadoken is not thrown by the same guy that steers the sub.

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[–] theoldones 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

Plus, the joystick was heavy and clunk, and it takes hours to train a sailor to use it. When the military contractor tested the Xbox controller as a replacement, sailors were able to figure out controls on their own within a few minutes.

wtf, what kind of controller needs a manual?

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[–] Awful-Falafel 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

A few minutes? Filthy casuals.

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[–] stillinit 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

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[–] iDontShift 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

is there ever a clearer case that Lockheed is overcharging for shit?

we could make that for 100 bucks or less with a 3d printer and some electronics.

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[–] Fagtardicus 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

one created by affirmative action

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[–] PraiseIPU 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

may I introduce you to the original xbox Steel Battalion controler

http://www.levelupvideogames.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Original-Steel-Battalion-Controller.jpg

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[–] Rellik88 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Sweet save some money.

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[–] dbvapor 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

The Russians are using mouse and keyboard. No contest.

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[–] aria_taint 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Well Russia just one upped us on Sub navigation computers: http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNDIw/z/6dQAAOSwwTlUpXYZ/$_35.JPG

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[–] daskapitalist [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So Russia is PCMR?

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[–] SonOfSnowden 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

According to Clinton...

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