[–] Doc_Brown_Lives 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Personally, I'm seriously considering this as my next phone:


Librem 5, the phone that focuses on security by design and privacy protection by default. Running Free/Libre and Open Source software and a GNU+Linux Operating System designed to create an open development utopia, rather than the walled gardens from all other phone providers.

A fully standards-based freedom-oriented system, based on Debian and many other upstream projects, has never been done before–we will be the first to seriously attempt this.

The Librem 5 phone will be the world's first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication. Librem 5 – A Security and Privacy Focused Phone

Quick facts:
Does not run Google Android
Does not run Apple iOS
Runs PureOS by default, can run most GNU+Linux distributions
World’s first ever IP-native mobile handset
End-to-end decentralized communications via Matrix
5″ screen
Security focused by design
Privacy protection by default
Works with 2G/3G/4G, GSM, UMTS, and LTE networks
CPU separate from Baseband
Hardware Kill Switches for Camera, Microphone, WiFi/Bluetooth, and Baseband


[–] altaccount4 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes! Start with security-hardening the hardware first then worry about securing the software layer next.


[–] doomsdrzej 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

While I support a Linux phone, I'll take a wait and see approach to it since a lot of developers have a habit of introducing a product and abandoning it just as quickly. Just look at the Ubuntu Phone for an idea of where this might end up going.

As for the FSF, I take their advice with a grain of salt. They're right about how unethical proprietary software and hardware is, but they're not offering anything in the line of a viable solution. They're the type of people who will complain that the car you drive 40 kilometres to work every day is unethical and would say that you should use a bike to get there instead... even in snowstorms.


[–] Ribena580 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Law enforcement officials expressed frustration:

“Most of the forensics community in law enforcement has known for a while, through the Apple IOS 11 betas, that security was going to be even more difficult and hamper law enforcement’s ability to extract data.”

So nope, all attacks on new iOS and iPhone are FUD, we all should adopt new iOS and iPhone to get better security.

Now the question, why FSF doesn't want end user like you and me to have better security on our data?


[–] MarthaFuckinStewart 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I can't believe that the FSF would endorse purism


They are the experts at freedom-washing

Considering their track record their phone will cost even more than the iPhone and be just as free

To the people in this thread who say that the FSF hasn't provided a "viable solution" - what do you expect a small non-profit to have millions of dollars in R&D to burn every year on making a slightly thinner and lighter phone?

You can buy a galaxy S3 and install replicant on it right now to have an owner controlled cell phone which you would know had you read the article.


[–] altaccount4 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The thing with the phones we have currently such as the S3 is that the baseband fully control the CPU.. allowing anyone in control of cell networks to pwn your phone. The Librem 5 will be designed with the baseband separated from the CPU, and have a hardware kill switch for it.

I can run Replicant but if the hardware isn't designed with security in mind then running Replicant is pointless, it'll only protect against software level attacks.

As long as Purism sticks to the following 3 things, then I'm happy:

  1. Separated baseband + killswitch

  2. Killswitches for all wireless comms (LTE, wifi, etc)

  3. Ability to install any Linux OS on it.

(bonus) Removable battery

Can I remove the battery and replace it?

Yes, like all Purism products, the case itself will allow you to access the insides, and the battery will be modular and can be replaced with ease.

Which is already ahead of today's phones with soldered nonremovable batteries.


[–] Sosacms 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Avoid Apple.


[–] BloatedVoatGoat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nothing is special about this 700-1000 chunk o shit. All the fucking doeyeyeed lemmings at the announcement are brainwashed idots. I can do just as much on a 150-200 phone with SD storage and qi charging has been around for years.


[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Um use Android is always the answer ... Bahaha


[–] BlockMe [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well, first time I've heard of Replicant.

I've gone off Apple after IOS 9. Looking for an alternative. Right now a dumbphone seems the best option.


[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wish BeOS was still going ....


[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'd do a dumb phone but I need a smart phone for work.

I switched from a 5s to android ... I want to go back to an iphone. It just works.