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[–] btgarner 0 points 146 points (+146|-0) ago 

I don't think we need to do anything to burn it, they seem to be doing a fine job from the inside.

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[–] spets1 1 points 37 points (+38|-1) ago 

Censoring sons of bitches need to go down

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[–] riposte 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The TPP censorship pissed me off. I will not be using reddit as my source for news again.

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[–] patrafter 9 points 6 points (+15|-9) ago 

You do realize that voat.co has already started 'censoring', don't you?

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[–] treagod 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Exactly. Also, I don't care what is going on there in the future. I'll leave it behind for good

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[–] harebrane 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Myself, I think I'll keep an eye out for the goings on there, but this is home now.

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[–] JohnZoidberg 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The admins really don't need any help. It's actually quite impressive.

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[–] HEROnymousBot 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

and signing this would just help the community...if someone actually wanted to burn it, this isn't the way! Me personally...I don't really care what happens to reddit either way - we have plenty of nearly identical replacements just sitting here ticking away.

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[–] OskarW85 1 points 88 points (+89|-1) ago 

"Burn the old one"? Really? That kind of shit-posting is reason why I came here.

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[–] Zvcx 1 points 28 points (+29|-1) ago 

Makes him sound like a jealous ex-girlfriend.

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[–] Piranha 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

I've started to unsubscribe from the subverses that have top posts that sound like this. They're a bit like the default subs on Reddit...

But /v/technology? Come on.. is there a good alternative subverse with some actual technology news on it?

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[–] InDifferent 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Agreed, I can't really put into words what exactly happened over at Reddit (though I'd like a quick ELI5); but I understand that it's the beginning of some bad news, so I jumped ship. I have no intentions of making that place burn, leaving that place was enough.

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[–] GentleCat 1 points 69 points (+70|-1) ago 

Just a thought, but I think that we should not keep this drama flowing through voat much longer. Demonizing the past, in my opinion, only makes us seem a bit like a teenager ranting about his bitchy ex-girlfriend. I think the best maneuver with this is to simply get out of there, start a new online life, and take on the opportunity to do and support the things that you want to see happen.

You actually want a true effect on Pao's/Reddit making? Take a step further and, after getting out of reddit, delete your user from their system, even the throwaways you can remember. It would be fun to see their user list drop by some thousands week after week. With this, the meme-gif-funny-picture-drama turns into a silent actual exodus that can drop their true value for their real investors.

Maybe I don't understand how this things work, but this is going to be my doing: not signing that "useless" petition, but delete my user from their database and give all my energy to build a new refreshed community.

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[–] umpaloompa 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Actually most reddit related news goes to /v/meanwhileonreddit. But as a huge influx is happening a lot of users will complain about reddit for some days. After a while some people will start to complain to put everything reddit related at /v/meanwhileonreddit.

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[–] GentleCat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Let's hope for this, in some weeks time it's going to be completely necessary.

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[–] pm_me_or 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That's fine with me. But I did not subscribe to any reddit-related subs, so I don't have to see this kind of posts on my frontpage.

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[–] mscomies 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed. The same thing happened after the FPH exodus. Everyone will complain about reddit for a week or two, but they'll eventually move on.

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[–] inspiredunease 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is really useful, It might be worth posting a top-level comment to this effect.

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[–] hraegsvelmir 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It just seems like a massive waste of energy and effort to focus on trying to change or hinder what's going on at reddit, when that energy could be better spent building up communities here.

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[–] tolstoshev 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's a healthy response. We had the same thing with the Digg diaspora - it'll taper off in due course.

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[–] voat-simulator 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It will take me a while to feel comfortable just deleting all that precious karma, though....

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[–] kujda 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I don't want to burn the other place. Let it live its own life, and let us have our life here on voat. As Guns & Roses sung: "Live and let die".

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[–] semata 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

i agree.
I want people to move on and have a wonderful time here.
We should aspire for quallity not revange

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[–] VoatedFresh 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes exactly. It's important to show maturity and move on. Especially considering it was the lack of maturity on Reddit which caused it to lose favour with a lot of us.

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[–] 77slevin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You mean: As the Beatles sang originally for the soundtrack of a Bond movie. (Massive G N' R fan here, I'll admit they made it their own)

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[–] parrisgg 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Can someone explain to me what the petitions really do? While I know it would be cool if they got something like 50k votes, would it actually do anything?

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[–] AtomicLizard [S] 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Just like with any petition, there is no obligation for action. The petition is just a formal way to express a concern, that allows voices to be quantified. However, I would imagine if I sat on the board of a company, and my CEO managed to piss off (currently exceeding) 150,000 of my customers, I would vote to oust her.

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[–] parrisgg 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I would vote to oust her as well. However, I believe from a business perspective, she has tight ins with her investors. I am sure somewhere she knows just how to sweet talk them because she really needs to make all that money back for her husband who is in the hole. They'll continue to run that PR shit, saying that most of Reddit doesn't really care. They really just want a social network, but I wonder how long it will take for it to actually burn.

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[–] TheScienceGuy 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

It gets the word out, which I think is the best case scenario for this petition. A lot of online media websites have been reporting on it and they love it when they have a quantified value to use like "150,000 users" instead of a qualitative statement.

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[–] parrisgg 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

While they have a quantified value of 150,000 users, it could also work against them. Reddit could easily flip it around and say they get 150m unique page views per month.

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[–] sammanzhi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's a pretty good way to get media attention, but pretty ineffective at inspiring direct change.

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[–] s0ft 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I signed, but I'm pretty sure she would ignore it even if it got to the goal. Also (as /u/btgarner said) they're already destroying Reddit on their own.

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[–] HEROnymousBot 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It already got to the goal of 150k then the goal just goes up to 200k...if it hits 200k the goal will go up to 250k or whatever. It's all pointless...what really counts is that 200k people are pissed off and if they cared about their company even from a business sense they need to do something about it. Especially once people realise voat is just a reddit clone, there's really nothing unique about reddit to make people stay other than user base.

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[–] OneHand 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Also, 200,000 signers is not that much compared to the millions that still browse that place.

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[–] s0ft 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I still browse it when Voat is down, but now that it looks stable I'm not going there. The mods are not the only thing that is not so good anymore about Reddit.

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[–] reshp1 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's true, but not everyone makes the effort or wants to give their personal info to sign a petition. For every person that cares enough to sign, there's probably 4 or 5 that are still pretty upset about it but just couldn't be bothered with the petition. Also, people that care enough to sign tend to be the ones that actively contribute to the site vs lurkers who make up the majority of the users. At any rate, 200k is more than enough to get investors' attentions.

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[–] s0ft 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Soon on Buzzfeed.

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[–] pm_me_or 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This is not very technology-related.

There are reddit-related subs, you know.

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[–] AccessDenied 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I feel like the problem with this petition is that the board at Reddit has fully backed all recent actions regarding censorship and staffing. It's not necessarily Pao that has ruined Reddit, it is the unified decisions of the entire board. Pao is simply the only one taking the heat because of her position. The issue is that the board knew Reddit was going to take heat for the actions leading up to monetizing their new business model and that because of its name and popularity users would still return regardless. The board probably looks at this petition and laughs because the power of a petition like this only works if the people that can facilitate change actually feel threatened by the outcome of dissatisfied petition signers. The board was fully expecting this uproar and the board literally couldn't care less. If they (the board at Reddit) actually cared about maintaining the type of users who would be upset about this whole ordeal they would have made an effort to work with the community and in the least communicate with their actions and plans to ease the change.

The people they want to retain at Reddit are the same individuals who encourage censorship, who agree with the business model. By aggravating the user base who disagrees with it, they are effectively removing the users they don't want while retaining the users they do want. It's all a part of the plan and to be honest it is working very effectively. This transition to the new business model wasn't a spontaneous decision and every move has been planned with immense thought and precision; the shadowbans, the specific removal of subreddits, the lack of communication. It has all been specifically planned for a reason. This petition only proves to them their plan is working and in full effect. They probably like it so much they created some sort of drinking game associated to this petition and those like it: one round of scotch for the office for every 20k signatures! The Reddit offices are having a circlejerk right now, they're loving it.

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